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Camera Profile in color managment

Katana
I have a question about color managment and camera profile.

I have a 1Ds. Under color managment settings, what should I set \"camera profile\" too? I have been told various things...

1) Set camera profile to whatever color managment setting the shot was taken...as in sRGB or Adobe RGB as set in the camera.

OR

2) Set to a 1Ds profile like \"1Ds tungsten\". The problem with this is that if I take an indoor (in AWB) shot and then set \"camera profile\" to 1Ds Tungsten in C1, and then try to apply a tungsten white balance, the shot is WAY off.

Version one above seems to make more sense...but I thought I'd ask.

Thanks
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  • Ulf Liljegren
    You have to difference between work space and camera profile.
    Workspace is an environment with in you will handle your colours.
    Camera profile is unique for each camera because each camera model is difference, untreated a Nikon and Canon produce very different colours, this goes as well for a 1Ds and a 10D as an example.
    So to balance it out we make camera profiles to neutralize the colours so a Nikon and a Canon looks the same.
    So to spell it out, you should not set a workspace as you camera profile, you should use the camera profile that match you camera and the light environment.
    In your case I believe the problem is that you have short the image under fluorescent and not tungsten. Tungsten has a Kelvin temp of around 3000K while fluorescent might vary from 3000K up to \"True daylight\" tubes which is 6500K where a \"daylight\" profile would be the correct choice.
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  • Katana
    Thank you for the reply...

    No, I'm sure I'm shooting under tungsten (incandescent) and NOT fluorescent.

    Not sure what to do now since C1 is so off for me.
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  • Arizona Bill
    [quote="Katana" wrote:

    I have a 1Ds. Under color managment settings, what should I set "camera profile" too? ...

    Thanks

    I usually use 'EOS-1Ds daylight' but there is a rich assortment to choose from if you're not shooting in typical daylight conditions ... in addition to 'daylight' for the 1Ds I have portrait, portrait natural, flash, sepia, skintone 1, skintone 2-3-4, and tungsten. I think there was a free download at one time about a year ago offering all these different profiles for the 1Ds, maybe you can find it on the C1 site or Ulf or Keith can point you to it if it still exists. At any rate, my 1Ds has better profiles than the other two cameras I use so you should be able to find something from that list that works for you.

    Bill
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  • Katana
    Thanks Bill...

    Yes, Ulf...I'd like that dowload if possible....

    Can you point me in the right direction?
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  • Ulf Liljegren
    Here you go:
    ftp://ftp.phaseone.dk/DOWNLOAD/Support/ ... OS-1Ds.zip
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  • Arizona Bill
    [quote="UlfLiljegren" wrote:
    Here you go:
    ftp://ftp.phaseone.dk/DOWNLOAD/Support/ ... OS-1Ds.zip

    Thanks Ulf ... do you know if these 1Ds profiles for V 3.7 are the same as the ones provided earlier for V 1.3? In other words, can you use the same profiles for both versions or are there new profiles for different versions of Capture One? I checked a couple in a profile viewer and they look the same but didn't check all.

    Katana, the zip I downloaded April 2004 also had two jpegs in it showing the effects of these five portrait profiles on six different skin types (Irish, Nordic light, Nordic dark, Afro-American, Asian, Indian). I posted a reduced size version of these if you want to take a look. The originals are over 2,400 pixels wide and about 500 KB so I didn't post them.

    http://members.aol.com/bhilton665/Skin- ... Guide2.jpg
    http://members.aol.com/bhilton665/Skin- ... Guide1.jpg

    Bill
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