Out of Memory
I'm a long time C1 user, running Vista with 4 megs or RAM. Ever since I upgraded to C1 6.1.1, and now 6.2.2, I'm getting "Out of Memory" errors. The Thumbnails are slow to load, and I'm not able to select certain photos. Bottom line is C1 is unusable. Help please.
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Let me guess, you run the 32-bits version of Vista? 0 -
Yes, correct, 32 bit Vista. What's your point? If Catupre One does not run on Vista, then be up front about it. I've had NO trouble up until now. Do you have a recommendation or not. 0 -
[quote="NN88942121" wrote:
Do you have a recommendation or not?
Yeah - go 64 bit and up the RAM.
This has been discussed to death on here.0 -
[quote="NN88942121" wrote:
Yes, correct, 32 bit Vista. What's your point? If Catupre One does not run on Vista, then be up front about it. I've had NO trouble up until now. Do you have a recommendation or not.
It appears that with certain hardware configurations, the 32-bits version of Capture One 6 suffers from the out of memory error. As Keith pointed out already, the only way out in the long run it to upgrade to a 64-bit setup. This involves a 64-bit version of Windows as well.
There has been quite some discussion about it at the forum some months back.0 -
What many people don't realize is a 32 bit OS will only address 4gigs of memory INCLUDING VIDEO memory. Your computer will actually slow down by not addressing all the memory your system has. So if you have 4gigs of system memory plus a video card, somewhere along the line you are not utilizing all the memory your system has, and greatly losing performance.
I have an old Intel E8400 system with 8gigs of memory, 1gig Nvidia GeForce 440 card, and Win 7 64 bit, and Capture One runs great. Yes it is a bit slow processing RAWs to a photo, but that does not bother me all that much because that's about the time I go downstairs, crack open a beer, sit back, and relax. 😂0 -
If 64 bit is a requirement, then why provide it as a 32 bit installation? I had NO problems with version 5. If I had known, this was going to be known issue I would not have upgraded. I have to wonder about the marketing of this product. To assume that one is just going to go out and upgrade their entire system to run a specific product is more than presumptuous. 0 -
[quote="NN88942121" wrote:
If 64 bit is a requirement, then why provide it as a 32 bit installation?
It's not a requirement - you can plod along and struggle with a 32 bit OS and get the job done eventually - it's a recommendation.
As it happens, I never had any problems using a 32 bit OS (XP), and it's because there are people like me that Phase One legitimately offers a 32 bit build - it works fine for some/many/most of us - but the fact remains that with 64 bits and plenty of RAM everything is better.0 -
[quote="NN88942121" wrote:
If 64 bit is a requirement, then why provide it as a 32 bit installation?
You are not alone. I had same experience, rushed to upgrade to version 6, rushed to buy a new Video card to tape on OpenCL and in the end only just to find that C1 6 32bit sucks.
Phase One is dishonest to continue to sell 32bit version. It is useless to discuss with them as fix will never come.
But don't be fooled that your hardware config are the minority that has problem with C1 32bit. In fact, C1 32bit does not run on MAJORITY of ANY 32bit platforms/machines if you are doing anything serious in C1.
I would apologize for making this statement if Phase One dare to demo version 6.2 in public photography shows under a Win32 platform. If Phase One do not dare to do so, they better remove 32bit version from their product list.0 -
Better than a public demo, PhaseOne offers a trial period (as does Adobe) during which you can see how the new version works before purchasing. On your system, not one set up to "demo". You can assume that the more minimal your system is, the slower it will be...this has always been true since the early days of Photoshop, minimal is not a productive environment...it will simply run under that. Probably not well at all with background tasking and programs.
IMHO, all graphics programs, especially those with expanding feature sets run better under a 64 bit OS which has been a PC option for years and will obviously be the focus of development as 32 bit OS'es are sunsetted.
I'm not defending either PHase or Adobe, I've certainly bought products that were virtually unusable without upgrading hardware (and that was in the days of $1500.00 32MB memory chips). I was NOT a happy camper then either, but it is what it is...0 -
A demo period is not enough to perform a comprehensive stability test. One can work of certain images that require certain types of adjustment with no issue, but then other types or combinations of adjustment and it will crash.
For me it turns out if many images in a directory have a lot of rotation and/or cropping that CO 32-bit is much more likely to crash.
This is also not about being slower or not being snappy enough on 32-bit. I am more than happy with the speed of the interface and rendering adjustments real time (near instant). It is the crashes that are the issues.0 -
Just as an aside, COne is a raw converter, not a cataloging app. There are users that attempt to keep thousands of files in a folder and then complain about speed. NOT saying that's anyone here...but I've seen it described. It can be an issue, just as huge layered PS files can slow response in that app.....and crash/lock it when some filters are applied.
...BUT, if you're using 32 bit with the current feature set...keeping the files to a managable level might aviod some issues with speed. With 64 bit, I'm typically working with a couple of hundred 1d Mk3 images in a folder.... increasing that slows the program exponentially. It's entirely possible to bog it down even on a fast 64 bit install...I can only imagine what it does on an older computer with limited memory.
So, keep it running efficiently by clearing the trash folder more frequently, keep the activities window open and complete operations before moving to the next, and find a sweet spot for the number of files your system can handle comfortably...that will vary with your system.0 -
My image directories usually have 30-100 Canon 30D RAW images in them. I use no other file types. Speed is never an issue, only frequent out of memory crashing. 0 -
[quote="Alex1111" wrote:
My image directories usually have 30-100 Canon 30D RAW images in them. I use no other file types. Speed is never an issue, only frequent out of memory crashing.
Personally, I would run memtest and eliminate that possibilty (bad ram). It can pass a bios test and yet not support programs under load. Few programs utilize memory like COne (and that's a good thing).0 -
yes, i've run mem test from a bootable CD 0 -
Hi All
Good discussion and helpful.
My partner is running 32 bit on Windows Xp - having all the same problems as listed.
I am running 64 bit on Windows 7 with 4 Gig of RAM - working but I really could do with some more RAM.
My question is, what are people running out there, in terms of RAM (assuming 64 bit processor)?
Also any recommendations re video card specs?
Thanks in advance.
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Win 7 64-bit, 8GB DDR2 memory.
ATI 5770 1GB vga. Quad core Intel cpu, top of range in about '98 I think.
If you spec the PC/Apple to run Photoshop well, then C1 should run OK too. Having both open at the same time (plus Bridge say), doing serious work could cause issues.
I use CleanMem (sw) which also helps.
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Intel I7 2600K 8gb of DDR 3 memory GTX 570 not problems with 7D RAW files. 0
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