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  • Stefano1
    That's the same question i've. I'll buy the new mac, but if i've to shoot with C1...?
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  • ph1_user
    Of cause they will make the software avalible for the \"Intel\" mac's and so will a lot of other company's that work on the Apple platform, otherwise they don't have a future in the software market.
    The question is are the Capture One software going to be released, at the same time as the new intel mac's.
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  • Jeff LeFever
    My concern as well - I am looking to take a trip to the Apple store and ask a lot of questions. I am concerned, as I also bought a ProPhoto d4 pack recently which can be controlled via computer software and is Mac Only (interms of software)... but not sure how that will work with the Intel chip... same as my concern for Capture One pro and tether shooting...

    Thanks for starting this group.

    Jeff
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  • Ulf Liljegren
    Official statement conserning Mac OS x86 and Capture One / Rosetta will be out this week.
    Hold your questions until then.
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  • Ulf Liljegren
    Following is a official knowledge base article concerning Intel based Mac's.
    http://support.phaseone.com/KB/Home/Sea ... nguageID=1
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  • PSS
    thanks for the link, but that does not really tell me anything (i figured that phase would work on a new version to utilize the new chips)...i wanted to know if rosetta actually does allow for tethered shooting (even with a speed penalty)...i can live with a slower (for now) speed, but i cannot live with firewire problems/driverproblems/.....i am assuming that phase has had a chance to play with these new intelmacs and has done some actual tests...the intel imac and the macbook pro should be pretty much the same, so hopefully someone will do a test run?
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  • Ulf Liljegren
    pschefz

    I do not believe you read the article in full.
    We the article says is that Capture One in current version will work.
    We have had Intel base Mac's since Apple announced and as article states we will have native support for Intel in a upcomming version.
    There is very few Intel Macs on the market and I believe it is unnecessary to make a big thing out of this. Even under Rosetta you have a performance advantage over existing G4 Laptops and by the time they are really shipping in big amounts we will have native support.
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  • Billy1
    Ulf,
    Would you let us know the approximate processing times to expect when Capture One runs natively on Intel-based Macs compared to a Dual Power Mac G5? This will be helpful to those of us needing to make a computer purchase, and are considering the iMac Core Duo or MacBook Pro.
    Thank you,
    Billy
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  • Ulf Liljegren
    I will give you some more information when I have it but do not expect a x86 iMac to be faster then a Quad G5, far from. Intel will however be more kind to your electric bill 😂
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  • PSS
    i understand that C1 will run under rosetta (with a speed penalty of course) but i read in a forum that tethered shooting is not supported under rosetta...is that correct? like i said in my previous posts, i am not really too concerned with processing speed (for now) on my macbook pro/powerbook, since i use it or tethered shooting only and do all the processing on my G5DP....but i need to know if tethered shooting will work under rosetta...
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  • Ulf Liljegren
    Tethered is the only thing we have seen issues with under Rosetta. This should however be solved in 3.7.4 which should be universal binary so it will run natively on an Intel computer.
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  • Anonymous
    Without meaning any disrespect, UlfLiljegren seems to be removed from what we are all needing to know. When will the powerbook support tethered capture? After all that is what we are all looking at the PowerBook Pro to do... capture teathered in the field.

    The reason why I and I'm sure others need to know some idea of when this is going to happen is that we have to replace laptops NOW.

    This is a field where a day matters and not knowing how long we will have to wait means we may have to buy old technology to do a job b/c you can't tell us anything.

    If it is going to be a month I would rent laptops. If it is 6 months it makes sense to waste $3,000 on a PowerPC that I will only use until Capture One supports teathered.

    What everyone who is asking these questions fears is that we are going to have to replace a laptop with a PowerPC for an urgent job and the next day Capture One announces support.....

    Timing is the key in this business and Phase One doesnt' seem to understand the urgency here and isn't helping us at all with this transition.

    Thanks,

    Jim
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  • Jörgen1
    Hear hear...
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  • p12
    [quote="jmoritz@morefoto.com" wrote:
    When will the powerbook support tethered capture? After all that is what we are all looking at the PowerBook Pro to do... capture teathered in the field.


    Timing is the key in this business and Phase One doesnt' seem to understand the urgency here and isn't helping us at all with this transition.

    Thanks,

    Jim


    just to underline the importance of jims post:

    this is the main question and I would really appreciate a professional answer to this from phase one right now!


    we talk about buisness and not about a nice gadget for our hobby.
    we talk about investment-planning and reliability on the job.
    we talk about money !

    phase one, as a buisnesspartner should have a self conception, which is unimpeachable and trust-worthy. beating around the bush is not the perfect idea!
    answers like:
    "This should however be solved in 3.7.4 which should be universal binary so it will run natively on an Intel computer."

    2 "shoulds" in one phrase are not of the kind i would consider as "professional"...


    please let us know about the roadmap including gos/nogos for tethered support incl. supported cameras, and the TIMING !!
    it is high season in professional photography right now - and every day counts!

    I would prefer to hear a "will not" instead of a "should"

    a "should" is worth nothing !
    a "should" is the opposit of respect towards your customers !


    best regards from hamburg/germany
    p beier
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  • Jörgen1
    I am also thinking about buying a new laptop and is eager to know in what timeframe we can expect C1 to run natively on a Intel-Mac.

    I want to know NOW !

    In what way could it hurt P1 saying that \"-XXX month we will have native C1 for Intel-Macs\" ?
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  • PSS
    the macbook pro has already had it's first speedbump and we still don't know when we can shoot tethered...i read the official phase statement again, and it still tells me that : it should work with your new laptop, but if it does not, go back to your old one...i guess at least now we know that in fact it does not work tethered....so when will it work tethered? please, some answer...one month? two? three? it really is not such a big deal considering that photoshop probably won't be universal until next year (but i don't really do that kind of work on the laptop anyway)...so please tell us : a realistic release date so we can do our planing for the year....
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  • p12
    Hmmmm,

    it is now 4 days ago, that intense questions were asked..

    I wonder if Mr. Ulf Liljegren is not willing to answer or just not capable...

    anyway, this does not look good.!

    dear C1-crew: keep in mind, that you're talking to your customers...

    lucky you are - that you don't have a \"real\" competitor on the market right now.

    as soon as there is one (- and there will be some!) :

    look back to the warnings you're given right now...❗️ ❗️
    you will loose clients like this

    pbeier
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  • Ulf Liljegren
    Hey guys.

    Capture One 3.7.4 will be based on Universal Binaries and by that be runing native on Mac Os 10.4 x86 version.
    This version is currently running in a beta program.
    Official release date has not been set but I would expect it to be out in the end of Q1.
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  • p12
    ok,

    that's at least something...

    thanks

    kind regards
    pbeier
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  • PSS
    I would be more than happy to do some beta testing if that helps speeding things up (i did it for leaf) but my question: so 3.7.4 will run native on the intelmacs, and that version should come out by march/april?so i guess in the next 6-8 weeks? i understand that this is annoying for ulf, but it is even more annoying for us...i guess adobe did the right thing when they said that CS probably won't be native until 2007...so if they are ahead of schedule, nobody will complain...
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  • Gary2111
    I understand from an earlier post that the universal binary of Capture One will run slower on the MacBook Pro than a quad G5. Is there some way we could get some benchmarks of it against dual and quad (something like what Macworld did at http://www.macworld.com/2006/02/reviews ... /index.php but with more G5 configurations)?

    Right now, we're running off of PowerBooks and like the portability of a laptop. So, we're trying to determine how much boost we can get without the burden of lugging big boxes.

    Thanks,

    Gary
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  • Brian Eaves
    Greeting all .
    Yesterday I digital teched on a job using my MacBook Pro & the H25 on a ELD body w/o any problems. I was using Pro 3.7.3. We were shoting the IIQ-Raw Small raw files were 16.6 Meg vs. IIQ-Raw Large 22.3 Meg or Raw- Compatable w/3.0 =44.2 Meg. With the Max Captures in memory set for 10 we never filled the buffer and at the most had 3-4 yellow indicators lite by the camera status bar.
    I'll post more observations as the become avaiable.

    PS anyone from Phase One know the release date of a public Beta


    Brian Eaves
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