Doesn't run on Mountain Lion….
It doesn't run on OSX10.8.xx, Mountain Lion and is not made clear before you purchase, you have to upgrade to Mavericks to run it….. 😕
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This is made clear in the release notes. And, as always you have no obligation to buy for the next 60 days. The free trial is available for these types of overlooked conflicts. 0 -
I was VERY excited to read about the new features in 8.x, but I am now feeling crushed that it won't run on OS 10.8. I have a new Mac-- just a year old-- and I really have NO desire to "update" to Mavericks, given the poor reviews. Is there any way way PhaseOne could enhance compatibility with recent Macs? 0 -
I'm sorry but it's not possible. We are at the mercy of Apple and 10.8 is too restrictive.
If we built support for it we would be far delayed in already greatly needed features and bug fixes as well as offer less stability and speed.0 -
So this means I have to update kicking and screaming from my amazing, solid 10.6.8 MP.
I knew it was coming - PS CC 2014 doesn't update on my machine.0 -
[quote="NNN635446716030829978" wrote:
I was VERY excited to read about the new features in 8.x, but I am now feeling crushed that it won't run on OS 10.8. I have a new Mac-- just a year old-- and I really have NO desire to "update" to Mavericks, given the poor reviews. Is there any way way PhaseOne could enhance compatibility with recent Macs?
You might have read poor reviews, other have read great reviews. That does not make Mavericks better or worse.
Fact is that with OS X 10.10 around the corner, OS X 10.8 is almost end-of-life for Apple, which means e-o-l for application developers. The more versions of an OS are supported, the more extensive testing is. Limiting OS support makes up for a better application. As a user and photographer, that is my main focus. And Mavericks is free of charge, but you knew that already.
This post is no offense, but meant to encourage you to try CO8. 😄0 -
There is nothing wrong with Mavericks, it's been out for absolutely ages and the major bugs have been fixed by now. I would understand of being wary in the first few months but not for this long! I run it on my i7 MBPRO which is hired and used on a daily bases without any issues. 0 -
I had Mavericks installed on my iMac last winter, and was mostly happy with aside from what appeared to be some bugginess with the finder. The first install was just installed over top of an existing install of Mountain Lion which is what I tributed the flaky Finder behavior to. The first update to Mavericks was released and I decided to do a clean install of Mavericks with the update. That's when the issues related to external hard drives came up. It was a nightmare, external drives would no longer show up in the Finder, but would appear in Disk Utility. Then they stopped showing up in Disk Utility and would not show up when attached to my laptop or my really old Tower. I couldn't get them to mount on a PC laptop. I just about died from panic. I was finally able to mount them on a laptop running Linux, after-which, they would mount on my laptop. I was lucky in that I had no data lost, but it made me VERY wary of Mavericks. I downgraded back to Mountain Lion and tried to blot the whole thing from my memory.
I know that the brands of hard drives were Western Digital (the boot drive install by Apple at manufacture), Seagate and Toshiba, and had to do with firmware and/or drivers for PCs installed at the manufacturer conflicting with Apple's new requirements for "better performance."
After reading about C1P 8's requirements, I did some researching this morning and it appears that backing up the drives (I have 8 Seagate drives in OWC Mercury Elite Pro cases) and reformatting the drives to HFS+/GUID once you have done a clean install of Mavericks should remedy the problem.
So my question is; has anyone done this and have it work? I know this is more of an Apple kind of question, but I thought I'd ask here since Mavericks is a requirement for Capture One Pro 8, my only reason for updating the OS.
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[quote="Drew" wrote:
This is made clear in the release notes. And, as always you have no obligation to buy for the next 60 days. The free trial is available for these types of overlooked conflicts.
Who reads release notes? When someone trusts C1 and buys the long awaited update - how long has the D810 been out with NO support from C1? - it's just disappointing. There were masses of bugs in Mavericks and still counting, things like modshot reported and costing nerves and lots of time.
I'm fed up with companies stealing other people's lifetime. Glad I didn't buy. Why should I update? I experienced some performance issues with C1 7 Aperture never showed to me although six times more pics in the main lib. Loading times of 2-3 minutes for a small 3k pics catalog? After that freezes got the whole app - no way I'm updating a running system to a weaker one. Apple went the same as Windows did with Vista, I read about system crashes, lost mails, a lot of stuff showed there's no longer a proper quality control. Nope, I'm tired of this circus.0 -
No one forces you to use Mac OSX - go on and be happy with Windows.
No one forces you to use Capture One - go on and be happy with tools that help you accomplish your work.
Just my two cents for tonight...0 -
Pretty much useless 2 cents…
I could add, "no one forces you to reply..."
I bought C1 7 - so I'm interested in that investment keeping going on. No my problem Phase One took ages to develop 8. But my problem they don't support contemporary cameras on 7. So, why loose more money?
No one forces me to use Mac OS - well, on a Mac, Windows sucks.
On a PC, too. 😂
Edit: After a quick look to Wikipedia - I'm never certain with those dates - I found Windows 7, supported by C1 8, was released autumn 2009. Mac OS 10.8 was released 2012. So, you really gonna support medieval Windows and try to force Mac users to an upgrade a lot of people hesitate to make? In case there's some logic involved, please enlighten me. Besides some millions of more installation of Windows - but how is the share between Mac OS and Windows for Capture One users?
Anyway, just hours after C1 8 was released, Apple finally pulled the trigger and gave us RAW compatibility update 5.07, yes, for Mountain Lion, too. So, thanks to the worse DAM of C1, I'll stick with Aperture and hope for better features in a future to come. Oh, and uncompressed RAW as well as DX or 5:4 ratio or 1.2 crop are supported. 😄 Happy again, thanks for all replies and cheers, fellas!0 -
I'm in the same situation. I cannot upgrade to Mavericks because I run Protools10 on my MacPro and that does not support Mavericks. So I am stuck with OS 10.8.5 for the foreseeable future and C1 7 will be my last C1 version. Not a wise move to make this upgrade only available for the very last OS version. As far as I can remember I have hardly ever known a software company make that bold move. It is very clear that you could have made it compatible with OS 10.8.5 but you wanted to get C1 8 out before a certain time limit. I know the drill! I've been beta tester for several companies for many years (among them e.g Avid for Protools) and I know the logic. Before a beta round starts it is already said when it has to finished, bugs or no bugs compatibility or not , it has to hit the market for money reasons. So sad.
Cheers, Bob.0 -
I was also looking to try C1 8 and was surprised/disappointed to learn it's 10.9 only...
10.10 may be around the corner but it's still in beta with no fixed released date yet, just "sometime late 2014".
10.8 is officially supported until 10.11 comes out. When will that be? Judging by previous release schedule possibly 15 months or so from now, maybe less maybe more, pure speculation. It's not that unlikely that C1 9 might be released before OS X 10.11.
10.9 has been out for 11 months. Enough time to migrate to it but certainly not 'ages' considering many people found it buggy when it came out, and especially considering that typical C1 users, professionals, artists and serious enthusiasts, are exactly the type of users less likely to rush into early operating system upgrades.
Looking at the direct competition, LR 5 still supports 10.7, Dxo 9 still supports 10.6 (even though it's no longer officially supported by Apple). In fact I can't think of any comparable software that has already dropped 10.8 support. Even if there are any rare exceptions, I still can't make sense of the "we're at the mercy of Apple" argument.
Sorry this just seems like a very bad decision... I'm personally not in a rush to upgrade a perfectly stable 10.8 system just to test C1 8. I might give it a go when I decide to upgrade my OS anyway.0
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