Expand all variants by default
To expand all variants in the current folder, I have to select all images and go to Image > Expand All.
I have to repeat the operation every time I open a new folder.
I'm wondering if there is any way to make all variants expanded by default.
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Catalogue or Session?
Either way there is a an "Expand All" option in the "Image" menu, also accessible via a Keyboard Shortcut. (No preset defined but if you really want to do it you can set one up in the Keyboard Shortcut editor.)
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Session
I'm aware of the Expand All menu item
I'm looking for a setting that would expand all variants by default, without having to do it manually every time I open a folder.
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Can't you go to the All Images collection, select all, then use Expand All?
Ian
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Jerome,
I think that's perhaps an unusual way of working. I do not recall seeing such a requirement mentioned before in the forum over the past several years.
That said with my installation it is usual, assuming a clean close of a Session (I rarely use catalogues other than for some testing experiments) that its display state on close is retained when it is next opened.
However this depends, in Windows, upon the settings saved for the session in the userconfig file being in place and unchanged by anything next time the session is opened. As Windows is involved the experience might be variable.
For me it is somewhat consistent but I still use WIn 7 which has its faults but is not subject to random external influences via "updates".
Why is use of the "Expand All" option (especially if assigned to a Shortcut) a problem for you? I cannot think of a scenario that would make it a critical matter for me but I'm keen to understand the experiences of others.
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Thanks for your answer
As already said twice, the purpose of such setting would be to avoid expanding manually every time one opens a folder.
Because in my experience, the state of the variant groups are not always maintained across sessions (closing -> reopening).
And even though it maintained consistently the state, I would prefer to have all variants visible when opening a folder.
I'm using C1 13.1.1 on Windows 7 Pro, but the problem existed on C1 10 and below.0 -
Oddly my varients always expand by default. I had a look for a setting to see if I could help with this but I found nothing. Maybe it's another example of random behaviour in Windows 🤔.
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Given that C1 would need to create a representation of each variant (and the could be many per source image) and retain it in working memory in some form I am wondering whether the amount of memory (or virtual disk memory) available at the tome of processing (or maybe saving in terms of the what happens when the application is closed and then re-opened) may have some sort of influential effect.
Pure speculation on my part.
I could also imagine that there are a number of other factors that might influence what is retained in the userconfig settings on closing (by one means or another) a C1 editing activity.
Windows randomisation may well be a more likely influence though!
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As a side note, the collapsed state seems to be stored in the session sqlite database (.cosessiondb file).
More precisely, in the table ZImageInCollectionProperties, field ZCollapsed.One solution could be to clear the ZCollapsed values before loading Capture One :)
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