external editor
When I want to use Photoshop as exernal editor I used in Capture One 12 : Ëdit With"and there was a list with other programs.
In capture one 20 i tried that but i had to browse on my computer to use Photoshop, there came no list with other programs. I checked the preferences under the tab plugins. I saw the message that it wasn't able to pick up the programs on my computer to use with "open with".
How can i get that to work?
karel willemse
from Holland
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You could have a try at running the steps at the below link. It worked for me with some other apps I wanted to get running with C1.
https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360011225157/comments/360001937137
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Thank you Mark Witherington for the effort, but I tried that several times without the solution i was searching. I saw in the preferences that the aloowd plugins couldn't be found on my computer. Thats odd because in Capture One 12 there was a list and the only thing i had to do was check the boxes.
This is on my desktop, Windows version. I can sometimes borrow a mac from my daughter and there it works flawless.
I hope someone know the solution.
But for now Thanx Mark again
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Hi Karel,
> I hope someone know the solution.
The only known solution is to wait for a fix from P1 or to revert back to version 13.1 (see below). There are a lot of threads in this forum about the many problems/bugs related to the OpenWith plugin and the way C1 is handling external editors. These problems are lasting since years. Sometimes, we can find a workaround while waiting for a fix but this time the bug is deeply hidden in the plugin code and only the C1 developers (who obviously are ignoring what regression testing means) can fix it.
Gewoon afwachten.
How to download C1 13.1
1. Go to the Phase One site and open your customer account.
2. Click on Support in the top menu.
3. On the support page, in the "Software download and archive" box, click on "Go to software archive".
4. The first available download for your OS is the previous minor or major version whatever the previous version actually was. So, currently, it's version 13.1.0 (the current version being 13.1.1).
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The C1 developers refusal to write an external editor routine for Windows is really inexplicable. The way they currently do it using the OS (works fine in Mac) will always cause them problems as Windows is continually updated. Can't wait for Win 10 2004 and the issues that will bring. Certainly a "makes work" for the programmers. They obviously can't have anything else to do :-)
Ian
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I was hoping to find a solution that would allow me to get off reliance on Lightroom 6.14. I won't do subscription to Adobe and haven't had an upgrade in over 5 years. I had heard so much positive about Capture One that I decided to load the trial. I have been using for three days now. The editing tools and flexibility in post processing is unsurpassed. The killer for me is having no interoperability with other software that I like and have paid good money for. I can't use Luminar 4, Topaz Studio Suite, DXO/Nik. I have been fussing with Open with and Edit with for about 36 hours. I can use browse to launch the other applications but I have to save the edits to a a file in a Windows directory and then do a new import. This is totally unacceptable. After all these years and so many pros using Capture One why can't it use other external editors and easily bring the edited image back into Capture One. I guess the pros are so hot for Capture One because of its very cool tethering capabilities, but as a program that works well with other popular applications it totally sucks.
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Mike Thompson,
I have been working this issue for awhile and I finally found the solution that will populate the edit with and open with drop down menus with whatever apps you want. Go to this page and translate it and it will lead you thru the process. If you have issues, post again and I will detail the instructions. The new Nik from DXO has the ability to remember the edits done to tiff files that you create and send to Nik, but to be honest, I usually simply leave the external editing until the end of my workflow in C1.
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It will add everything such that you can then clean things up (turn some on, some off) in the C1 Preferences/Plugins (right side). I just discovered this solution in the last several days. So much better than having to Browse from in C1 with open/edit with every single time.
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Mike Thompson, if the C1 is setup correctly... when you do an edit with, C1 should prompt you for an output file to put the variant you want to edit in. Normally it is a 16-bit tiff. It creates the .tiff in the same directory that the variant is in (in my case the catalog folder with all of my raw images). It shows the new .tiff in the browser and then it opens your external app with that .tiff file. When you save and exit the external program, the .tiff file should be updated. It does not require me to save the file in the external editor to a special location, it knows where it is and works with it right in the catalog.
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Kevin, I have done the business of trying to make the additional file associations in Windows 10 for DXO, Luminar 4. and Topaz studio letting Windows know that those applications are capable of opening JPG, TIFF, NEF, and ARW files as appropriate. So far nothing has appeared in my Open With plugin windows that is helpful at all. It does not let me add applications.
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Kevin, I am using the 4.3 version and it is useless. I imported my Lightroom catalog. I let Capture One create previews for my nearly 18000 image LR catalog. It took a few hours to finish. Then, I close Capture One and re-opened it. I saw that it properly brought in the stars and color coding filters that I use in Lightroom. I clicked on the filter option to show my 50 5 star images. Capture One started again to create previews for those 50 images and it took over 30 minutes for it to do so. And this was the second pass. It should have had the previews in a cache somewhere so it doesn't have to rebuild each time. Lightroom can create 50 new previews in the blink of an eye.
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Oh, I should mention that original files, Capture One executable, and all catalogs both LR and Capture One are on SSD drives.
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Mike Thompson... I am glad you showed me the screen shot. Your problem is related to the latest version of C1. It has a bug that does exactly what you are seeing. C1 knows about it. The fix is to go and download the previous release. If your version says it is 13.1.1, then that is your problem. They broke the edit/open with with that release. Simple solution, go and download the previous version and simply install it over top of the current version. You do not need to uninstall the current version. The version you will see after you install the previous version is 13.1.0
Here is what I got from C1 on this exact problem and how to resolve it:
Thank you for bringing this issue to our attention, we appreciate the time you’ve taken to contribute towards the development and maintenance of Capture One.
I consider this a bug and have already filed a report with all the details for the R&D team.
If this tool is vital to your workflow I recommend you revert to the previous version while we fix this issue.
You can head out to our download archive and get the previous version (13.1) here: https://account.captureone.com/en/download/archive/COArchiveWin
Choose the first option "Capture One 20 - Windows" as that is version 13.10 -
Mike, look in Capture One, under Preferences/Update tab. That is where you will see the version of C1 you are running.
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It ticks me off that Capture One knows that there is this bug and they continue to leave version 13.1.1 up for the trial download. Like I said I spent at least 36 hours trying to get external editors to work only to find out that they never would work on version 13.1.1 because of a bug. I did what you suggested and downloaded 13.1.0 and will see how that does after it finishes setting itself up. Right now I get the message that the Open with plugin is loading. I know PhaseOne and Capture One has been around since 1995 but they don't exactly instill a lot of confidence.
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I was busy working so that's why I didn't react on the help of all of you.
Thank you so much for the answers: and I now understand that I have to / and will wait for the comnig update to fix that bug.
greets
Karel
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Karel, there is no visible functional differences between 13.1.1 and 13.1.0 as far as I can see. I am having no problems using 13.1.0. I still get the Before/After view functions with 13.1.0.
Plus, you do not have to uninstall 13.1.1, you simply run the installer for 13.1.0 over top of the 13.1.1 installation. It really is very painless and easy to go back to 13.1.0. These problems do not exist in 13.1.0.
However, I would point out that the way to populate the Edit With and Open With drop down menu list (for Windows) is going to be the same whether you use 13.1.1 or 13.1.0. And that link in Spanish gives a very good and easy solution to resolving that.Regards,
Kevin
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Hi,
It's important to understand that there are actually 2 different problems about the OpenWith feature/plugin under Windows (one was obviously not enough). I'm not sure that this is clear for everyone.
The first one is that making some applications appear in the Edit/Open with... drop down menu is sometimes difficult or even impossible whatever method you're using. I have already explained why this is due to a major design flaw elsewhere in this forum. So, I won't duplicate these posts.
The second one is that for many users, the discussion about how to make apps appear in that drop down menu is just irrelevant because the plugin is not initializing correctly (as shown by the screen capture posted by Mike in a post above). The consequence is that the Edit/open with... menu is always empty. Using the Browse... option will eventually always generate a program error, so it's useless. Because of this bug, many users are merely unable to call an external editor directly from C1. They have to generate files using the Export feature, load these files in their external editor outside from C1 and then import the result into C1. Which is awkward, to say the least. This initialization problem first appeared (not for all users) in the early releases of C1 20. It was fixed in version 13.1.0 and re-appeared in version 13.1.1.31 under another form (not for the same users, though).
So, there is some confusion in some threads related to this issue because well intentioned forum users are leading others to the wrong path. There's absolutely no solution to the second problem beside reverting back to version 13.1.0.
They needed 4 months to fix the initial problem the first time with version 13.1.0. So, I would say, don't hold your breath waiting for a fix.
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Just to let everyone know I followed Kevin's advice and installed the previous version 13.1.0. Unfortunately for me the Open with plugin fails to initialize exactly as before with version 13.1.1 except that now it takes about 10 seconds before it invites me to browse. This a a deal breaker for me. For now I'll just classify Capture One as POS software and stay with my current workflow.
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