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Layer Order Changes after Importing to Catalog

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  • SFA

    Carlo,

    In theory layer order should not matter in C1 (or so it has been indicated previously) however I could imagine certain situations where it might appear to matter with the latest features.

    Can you provide a list of the type of layer adjustments with which you are experiencing problems? I would be interesated to check to see if I can see the same problems.

    Also confirm whether some of the imports are of files that were using older C1 processing engines?

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  • Permanently deleted user

    Actually, layer order can matter, David Grover revealed this several months ago as an addendum to a tutorial on the new Heal/Clone features. It turned out that some adjustment layers don't effect Heal/Clone layers as expected unless the adjustments are above the healed layer(s). I've found the same thing and have since been making sure that I re-order my layers so heal/clone ones are lowest in the stack. This has eliminated a problem I saw where the H/C corrections came out too light. Weird.

    I've also noticed lately when importing images with corrections—eg exported Raw+adjustments from another catalog—that while heal/clone layers are transferred, their masks aren't. I just found this and need to file a bug report.

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  • Carlo Barreto

    SFA,

    The easiest way to replicate this is to make two filled adjustment layers each with drastic curves on them. Now just drag and change their order. The outcome is different based on the layer order.

    I typically use multiple adjustment layers with curves or levels on an image and leave the Background alone. I may have an adjustment layer with a contrast curve and a second layer with a curve for an exposure compensation. If those layers flip, then I have a different outcome. I understand that there are different ways about going after the desired outcome, but the beauty of using layers is that I can keep adjustments labeled and organized.

    If importing session layers into a catalog changes that layer order, I'm looking at two different outcomes.

    All imports are Capture One 20 Engine.

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  • BeO
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    Wow, I did not notice until now that layer order with curve tool matters, but indeed changing the order gives enormous different output.

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