Catalogue broken slightly
Hello,
my main catalogue has some weird behaviour. There are two annoyances:
- The count of images in a collection is sometimes wrong.
- directly after import, many images have the thumbnail of an older image in the browser. It doesn't correct, when I view or move the image. Only when I make edits to the image, the thumbnail updates after a short delay.
The catalogue passes verification OK. Any idea, what could be wrong and how I can correct this?
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For 1.
Do you sometimes create multiple variants of an image?
Do you sometimes apply filters that might select only some of the images in a collection?
Is there any correlation with something like the number of deleted variants?
For 2.
Is there any chance that you have images with duplicate names?
Are you browsing the collection of newly imported images or ar you viewing a wider collection or perhaps all images at the time?
Perhaps more likely is that the data in Cache memory as managed partly by Windows has not "cleaned up" well at some point and internal work files have some issues.
I would be tempted to try to persuade Windows to undertake some extra housekeeping before doing anything else.Close Capture one and re-boot the machine 2 or 3 times without starting Capture One. (or any other application if that is possible for you.
Then boot up, open Capture One and see if your experience is different. It has worked for me on some occasions when strange things have been happening. It should not take much time so is worth a try.
If no luck with that I would suggest that you "Submit a request" and create a support case for personal attention from the C1 support team who will probably be able to come up with some suggestions after a review of the C1 log files.
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With all due respect cataloging in the Windows version of C1 is broken.
When it works, it's glacially slow and prone to catalog corruption. Much of the functionality is compromised with larger catalog sets and either completely non-function or works incorrectly as Alexander is experiencing. I've got ~60k images in my photo warehouse, which is way too many for C1 cataloging to deal with. I've given up beating my head against it.
You can submit a support request. I can pretty much tell you what the response will be.
I've switched away from cataloging to using what I call an "omnibus" session.
I created a session, but haven't imported any files to it. I merely navigate to the folder of choice, select an image and work from there. The first time doing this, C1 writes a plethora of files into a subfolder containing all the pertinent development info. It's "effectively" an EIP export.
This works fine albeit a bit slowly at times and I'm not subject to the vagaries of a corrupt catalog and can back up all the sidecar files.
I'm using LR for my DAM but have found that LR and C1 use XMP sidecars in fairly different ways which will invoke another step in my workflow to reconcile.
Perhaps one day C1 will fix cataloging for windows and then I'll upgrade.
Until then, ain't gonna happen.....
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I do agree with Mr Dubea. C1 can for example lose keywords all by itself. At one time I have my keywords intact and I use them quite normally, ten minutes lates one or two keywords have disappeared.from catalog keywords. That is very frustrating. I may have a keyword appearing in, say, 10 000 images and all the sudden the keyword itself is gone. And, as OP writes, thumbnails may be wrong.
Otherwise C1 is a wonderful program, the best there is, but unless the catalog starts to behave I will go back to LR.
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Thank you for the responses!
seems like the catalogue is very susceptile. It was fine for quite some time and then problems started.
Somewhere I read, that it might help to export the catalogue and reimport it. Do you think, that might help? I'm not sure, how to do that properly. My idea would be to move the catalogue folder including subfolders to a different path. The images are outside the catalogue, so I wouldn't touch them. Then I would use file->import catalogue->CaptureOne catalogue...
Do you think, that works? I don't want do mess things up ;-)
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Ok, stupid me :-)
SFA, you where perfectly right. the bird is there in two variants with different ratings and the variants are collapsed, so the browser counts it only once, while the collection also counts the variants.
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I just found the menu entry for regenerating previews and did that for the whole catalogue. A bunch of images imported after that are alright. Maybe my second issue has also been solved that way.
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The apparent resolution of your second problem is interesting.
If it was known that the process for generating Previews and Thumbnails during import had no completed for some reason then regenerating would be expected to work.
That you were presented with thumbnails form different images is a little strange. As a temporary display problem when C1 discovered that it did not have the required associated thumbnails for some images I could perhaps understand that it would simply display what was in memory (or not clear what had previously been put on screen) but at the same time start the process of thumbnail generation. I would anticipate that that after a few seconds it might seem evident that something like that was happening.
However as I use sessions and they are unlikely to have such a large number of ungenerated files the probability is that C1 can assess the situation and react more quickly to start thumbnail (and Preview?) generation and so the length of unchanging display of the missing images would be quite short. Perhaps a few seconds at most.
The mechanism is slightly different as well and I suppose that may also make a difference.
It sounds like your problem is resolved at this time. That is good news.
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