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Scale in Long Edge and Ignore Crop

ROBIN GUITTAT

Hi,

I have an issue and I don't know if it's normal behaviour or just a bug and it's been very frustrating.

Working in Session Workflow, in the Process recipe :

I have a image with a Crop applied. I want to output it without the crop, but with a defined size.

When I set "Crop" as "Ignore Crop", and "Scale" as "Long Edge : 2500px", the image ends up being bigger than 2500px.

In the process summary it tells me that the image will be indeed 2500px wide, but the actual output image is bigger. It seems that capture one considers that my crop should be 2500px wide, and then calculates the uncropped size from this value. This ends with my output image being 3000px wide for exemple.

I believe normal behaviour should be that Capture one output an image 2500px wide, no matter if the setting "respect crop" or "ignore crop" is applied. So the "Ignore crop" option should behave as if no crop tool was applied and the "Long Edge" setting should override in the end.

Please feel free to ask if i'm not being clear.

Having this issue on both CO12 and CO20 (both fully up to  date).

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  • NFGphoto

    By the look of it there's no way to do what you want.  I tried a few different ways, and you're right: setting it to 'ignore crop' creates an image larger than requested, because the defined size applies to the crop area, but the rest of the image is still visible and extends past the size you've defined.

    This sounds a bit like a weird edge case that few people will need and so I wouldn't expect it to be added to the application (no matter if I agree with your thinking).  I suspect your best option is to run a batch resize on the images after you've rendered them all from C1.

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  • ROBIN GUITTAT
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    Hey NFG and thanks a lot for your answer and taking the time to try this out yourself. I think indeed that Capture Ones does exactly this. It takes the crop into account when set to « ignore crop » which is very counter-intuitive.


    I agree this is an edge case, but it has a very classic use : I want to send clients some images with the Instagram crop (4/5, 1350px long edge, respect crop) and an larger uncropped version for the web (native 2/3, 3500 px long edge, ignore crop). And I was thinking I would be able to just apply those two recipes on the cropped versions, but unfortunately I can’t.


    And yes, two solutions are :
    - create a variant and remove crop for each image I want to export without a crop. But that’s a bit tedious do do on a lot of images.
    - batch resize after export, but that’s like applying a recipe on a recipe. I’d prefer not processing an image twice, and avoid jpg compression twice (even if very minimal).



    Thanks for letting me know it’s behaving the same for you tho, I was afraid it was a bug specific to my build for some reason.

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  • NFGphoto

    You're very welcome.

    Just to offer a solution, if you export the full resolution image and then resize it, the JPG compression impact could be as close to zero as possible assuming the difference in size is significant.  Just in case you didn't think of doing it that way...  (Or you could export to TIF of course).

    But yeah, it's not ideal, I totally understand what you're trying to achieve.

    I hope you find a workable solution.  

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