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Capture One 20 output sharpening

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I'm interested to hear if people are using this facility in the Process Recipe. There is a choice of sharpening for screen or sharpening for print. I am only viewing images on a screen and I am uncertain as to why one would wish to do further sharpening assuming sharpening has been done previously with the main sharpening tool.

Am I right in thinking that one might wish to do this because the previous sharpening has been done (and viewed) with an edited RAW image whereas the output sharpening is applicable to the output file format (usually JPEG in my case)?

With my limited knowledge I feel that sharpening at any stage is something that needs to be done with considerable caution. I do wonder if output sharpening on top of previous sharpening may be a bit heavy-handed? Of course, the eye is the ultimate judge but I'm curious to know if many people do utilise output sharpening?   J.

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  • SFA

    See if these help  - or have you already seen them?

     

    https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002636397-Overview-of-output-sharpening 

     

    https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002742918-WEBINAR-Optimizing-Images-for-export 

     

    I think the answers vary according to how you process things.

    Some people apply no sharpening at all (other at the lens level for interpreting the RAW file into something usable) beause they fully expect to use Photoshop for all final preparation for output

    If one only expects to use a screen display intent for output than maybe all sharpening can be applied in the edits.

    Printing tends to benefit from different sharpening needs according to print size and viewing distance. That is often something only included during the print output or preparation of a file to be used for printing.

    Some commercial on-line printers seems to have their own processing at print time on top of whatever the file shows in order to suit the specific process and print media needs.

    The same is true for some in computer and on-line image gallery storage and display vendors.

     

    So it all becomes a bit of a nightmare  - especially if trying to come up with the best amount of sharpening within the edit instructions. Hence the use of output sharpening the its visibility using the Proofing process.

     

    So in your case if you are sharpening for screen in the edit and never need anything else that should be fine. Ignore the output sharpening. However you can readily check to see if it matters by enabling the proofing and trying a few different settings.

     

    Screen (or projector) resolution, type and viewing distance might have some influence over how things look but when we get to that subject there are, as with printing, so many variables that it's difficult for people to offer anything but the broadest guidance.

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  • Permanently deleted user

    Thanks SFA. I had seen the article but not viewed the webinar which I shall do. In a way your excellent advice summarises the reason why I asked the question. There are so many variables and I was interested to perhaps hear what other people are doing. Your penultimate paragraph advising that probably I should ignore output sharpening seems to be correct for me. At least I have an awareness now of the alternatives in case I should ever need them.

    It's matters like this that make me realise just how comprehensive the facilities are within Capture One 20, and also how my knowledge / experience is very limited compared with many users of the software. As always, thanks.  J.

    PS. Having watched various Capture One webinars I do think that David Grover's presentation is first class. Clear, calm and relaxed.

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