Capture One laggy on Mac Mini?!
My Mac Mini specs: i7 3.2GHz, 32GB RAM, 500GB SSD, Intel UHD Graphics 630
I have read in reviews that Capture One is speedier than Lightroom in several areas. My experience has been surprisingly different.
There's a noticeable lag when using sliders during editing such as Exposure, White Balance, Contrast, Highlights, Shadows etc.
And during browsing, despite rendering previews (3840px) larger than the photo sizes, they appear blurred at first it takes 1-3 secs before they are rendered sharp.
My display is 4K but my Capture One window is resized to half of my screen size.
Are these observations normal?
For reference, I only imported 8 Nikon D850 RAW files into a new catalog. Tested with hardware acceleration off and on. I have also tried tweaking the preferences in C1.
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your monitor resolution is overkill for your small GPU.
For 4k + resolutions C1 recommend 8gb or more vram gpu
You can maybe try with egpu setup, this hsould help a lot or use following trick
Go to the Aplications and pres Get Info on Capture one aplication
Select the tickbox, Run In Low Resolution
now C1 should work in fullscreen no problem
Br
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Thank you Peter for the suggestions! The lag was reduced when I ran C1 in low resolution.
But I should consider getting a sGPU in the long run.
Thanks again.
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I've got a Mac Mini with CO12. I also have an eGPU with Vega 64. Don't waste your money on it, it makes nothing better except for export times.
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Thank you Oskar for letting me know! I'll continue to tweak and see what speeds the program up for me the most :)
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Oskar, thats strange. Is the egpu configured correctly? Are you sure that C1 is using the egpu for adjustments? I have a mbp 16 and i have to force switch to the AMD card so C1 use it for adjustments, otherwise C1 is using the less powerfull Intel gpu
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It's been a while and I've fought a lot with it, but there might be tweaks I haven't tried. But it definitely used it for batch stuff like exports. But not adjustments.
I imagine the dGPU is a lot easier to utilize for C1 compared to an eGPU. I've tried both with display connected to eGPU and not.
In general, eGPUs for Mac is a horrible experience. It seriously quits and restarts all programs that might use it every time you plug it in/turn it off..
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"In general, eGPUs for Mac is a horrible experience. It seriously quits and restarts all programs that might use it every time you plug it in/turn it off."
It's unfortunate that you've had that experience, but I don't think that it's typical. I've been using a 2018 Mac mini with a Vega 56 graphics card in an Asus XG Station Pro for almost two years and have never experienced what you're describing. There's a very long thread on Mac Rumors about the Mac mini and external GPUs, and posts there don't reflect what you're saying either.
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I'm glad to hear people are getting better experiences than me :)
It is, however, a fact that plugging in the eGPU will quit a lot of the applications you have open, without mercy.. but most people probably use it all the time. I've heard on egpu.io about people having trouble with computer re-awake after sleep and so forth however. And most custom eGPUs with higher end cards need noisy cooling which is a problem for me to have constantly (even tho I made a crazy custom water cooling loop in my Sonnet..).
But, to the point: my Mac Mini lags like shit on iGPU and CO12 when dragging exposure or cropping etc. I use a 5k display. It's no wonder that it lags.
I connect the eGPU and get no change whatsoever in these operations. But exporting and other batch transforms etc iirc get speed ups.
I've also tried it the "right" way via a display cable from the graphics card (4k only possible then, unfortunately). Same result.Are you saying this isn't the case for you?
For the record: it "works", I've played games with it in boot camp and I get notable differences in macOS here and there, but the plug/unplug is horrible and like I said - a simple crop operation doesn't get any help at all for me in Capture One.
I haven't tried latest CO, been a while since I gave up. What version are you running?
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Oscar, try the “Low resolution” trick with C1 which i mentioned above for performance jump
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Oskar, it's helpful to know what a graphics card will and won't do for a given application. As far as I know, it has no bearing on the crop function. I'm new to Capture One, but presumably there's guidance on what features are graphics intensive.
When you have a graphics card plugged in, there is a checkbox in the Info panels for applications about whether to prefer an external card. Do you have this checked off? Just trying to figure out why you're running into these problems.
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Peter: Thanks I'll test it, sounds like a non-solution for me to have a 5k setup and run in low resolution tho.. the eGPU is there for a reason :)
Ror: I really appreciate your comment! It's a very narrow issue I'm having so not many people in the world to discuss it with.
I previously had a 2014 5k iMac, with a pretty okay graphics card (iMacs have mobile-grade cards but it was the model's top tier). Capture One ran soo smoothly on that computer! Everything worked great!
That's why I find it strange for my newer Mac Mini, with beefier CPU and memory, and an eGPU akin to a $7k Mac Pro, to lag horribly when doing those operations in the same resolution.
There are likely other parameters at play here as well, for instance CO's lack of Metal support etc.
Important note: Adobe suite is also pretty slow on my iGPU 5k. The eGPU makes a slight difference for it but almost nothing. So it's not unique to Capture One.
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"Important note: Adobe suite is also pretty slow on my iGPU 5k. The eGPU makes a slight difference for it but almost nothing. So it's not unique to Capture One."
Adobe has a page that says what an eGPU helps with respect to its software. It's worth reading.
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Is it a disappointing read? If so - I'm unsurprised. But you're trying to tell me otherwise, so.. :)
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The Adobe page just tells you what an external GPU is helpful for and what it isn't helpful for :) Apple has a similar page for Final Cut Pro X. I haven't checked yet, but I would like to think that Capture One also has such a page.
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Thanks but that won't help me with my lagging crop tool, I think?
My starting point was to warn OP that eGPUs are crap, beware.
If you're trying to convince me otherwise then color me unconvinced, sorry :)1 -
Thanks for all the answers and suggestions!
@Oskar Thank you. I guess there's not much point in getting a eGPU if I'm looking to improve performance in adjustments, cropping etc. eGPU might be more apt if I'm doing video rather than photos. And I remember reading somewhere that a fast CPU, SSD and RAM makes more difference.
@Ror Thanks too. What I can't understand is despite reading that C1 is speedier than Lightroom, it is in fact the opposite for me, which is slightly disappointing. But perhaps this problem is limited only to my experience or just a very small group of users :)
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Yeah I wish knew where the problem lies.. I've got a beefy cpu, lots of ram, SSD.
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Same for me lol.. Beats me.
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