File Management Resources

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  • Steven Bartlett

    I'm a new user and I agree it's complicated.  I dropped back to the Express version which is simpler to use and so far the features are sufficient for me.  There seems to be a shortage of video help on file management.  Here's a short one that you may have already found.  There seem to be more catalog 'organization' webinars.  This link will take you to the webinar page where you can scan through to see what might be helpful.

    Hope this helps.

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  • Shane Baker

    What are you trying to do that you can't?

     

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  • Mark Romine

    I would simply like to just load my files into a session without C1 making duplicates of each file that that I load into it. I offload my files from cards into folders I would like to point C1 at that folder, load the files from that folder, make my adjustments and export to a separate folder. 

    Another thing, when I delete a file I would like it simply to go into the system trash not a separate C1 folder for the session trash that I have to later remember to empty. Which takes up HD space until I remember to empty it. 

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  • Mark Romine

    Let me see if I can better explain what I am trying to say. I off load files from a card to a project folder. I create a New Session, I then click on the 'Import' button and C1 asks me where do I want to 'Import From'? So I select the folder of the RAW files that I am interested in processing. But then there is also an 'Import To'  option and whatever destination that I select C1 imports those files into the folder. Why? I don't want duplicated files. I simply want to process the original files without making duplicates and taking up HD space. This seems like unnecessary step and waste of space. 

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  • Marco Hyman

    Don't import.  It's an unnecessary step for what you want.  Images don't HAVE to live in the session capture folder.   Mine don't when I use a session unless I'm tethered.   And even then I move them out of the capture folder when done.

    Open your session.  New or existing, doesn't matter.

    Look at the System Folders section of the Library tab.   Use it to navigate to the folder that contains your images.  Click on that folder.

    You've just added the images in that folder to that session.  Edit away.  You might want to make it a favorite so you can find it quickly in the Session Favorites section of the Library tab.

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  • Shane Baker

    Hi Mark

    Firstly - listen to Marco! :-) He knows more about C1 than I ever will - and certainly more about sessions. I've only ever used sessions when tethered (and that's rare enough). I use catalogues and again, you can opt to add the downloaded files to the catalogue, rather than duplicate them.

    Seems like you have both options.

    All the best

    Shane

     

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  • Marco Hyman

    Listen to me? Hah!  I've been using C1 for maybe 15 months.  I've figured out a little of how the program works by having to work around it's limitations in my hobby workflow.  That was the easy part.   Learning how to take a decent photo by intent (instead of luck) and edit for best effect is still beyond my skill set.

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  • Shane Baker

    Hi Marco.

    Well ... you've bailed me out when I've had to open the bonnet on C1. IMHO, you're worth listening to!  :-)

    Stay well

    S

     

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  • Steven Bartlett

    I started using the trial version of C1 a week ago and first wanted to check out the editing features.  Once I found that they were an improvement over the Nikon app I was using I started to look into the file management functions which, like you, I found very confusing.  Catalogs, collections, sessions, albums, folders...  That is just overkill for my needs.  Through trial and error I now have C1 set up with just a catalog and folders with the catalog pointing to the files that I want to import for editing.

    My first post, which I made yesterday, which lists some of the video and other resources which you requested is still marked as "Pending approval".  Since I don't know when or if my posts will ever be approved I won't describe the steps taken for my file organization now.  If you do see this post and you would like me to describe my setup just let me know.

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  • SFA

    Steven,

    The "Pending Approval" status is unusual but something that for some reason crops up for some people form time to time. I have never discovered why. I think it some sort of automated result based on new (or newish) posters with posts that contain several links. Or at least that is one possibility.

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  • Steven Bartlett

    SFA,

    Thank you!  I think you're right.  My first post did contain several links to C1 resource pages, which the OP requested.  And of course now I see that this morning's post did go through without issue.

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  • SFA

    Automated Anti Spam algorithms I suspect.

    When this forum engine was introduced many people, even long time contributors, seemed to be caught in that net from time to time for a while. Much less common these days. Presumably things have been re-tuned.

     

    For what it's worth there are times when things entirely outside the normal controls can have en effect.

    For example most systems generally check for connectivity and links related to blacklist and whitelist sites.

    These sites are not always reliably on line and not always accurate. They also check for traffic that may have passed through servers flagged as possible threats.

    Some years ago a friend of mine had problems with several clients ran when some key functionality in their business systems suddenly stopped working due to potential threat assessments. After several days of troubleshooting it turned out to be a wider problem for many people IF it so happened that their data was passing through a particular server in a particular location in a large internet services provider.

    After some more investigation it was discovered that the name allocated to that server matched an entry on a "blacklist" file on a computer in Germany. However the computer was presenting a list that was at least 7 years out of date. In fact it had been active up to about 7 years previously when it was turned off.

    It fired up and seemed to work so he left it running while he went away to think of something he might be able to use it for ... not realising its previous functions and that it had connected to the internet and had now become visible to any virus and security checking applications that still had it listed as a source of risk assessment. The data in the list was out of data ... chaos resulted for some days.

    It is so easy for small anomalies in "rules sets" to create significant disruption of simply unexpected or unpredicted glitches.

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  • Mark Romine

    First, thanks to everyone trying to help me get my head around this file structure thing.

    @Marco,  "Look at the System Folders section of the Library tab.   Use it to navigate to the folder that contains your images.  Click on that folder."  You lost me there.  Is that the Library tab of C1 or are you talking about the Library folder in the Mac OS? I do not see a Library tab in C1 there is one in LR :)  Or are you talking this path: C!->Image->Show In Library? If so that does not do anything. 

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  • SFA

    Mark,

    Assuming you are not using an "Express" version of C1 (Catalog only, no sessions) using the default Workspace the Left most Tab in the tools area is where you should find the Library Tab.

    In there, for a Session, you should see section heading for 

    Session Folders

    Session Albums

    Session Favourites

    System folders.

    I vaguely recall that using a Mac the system folder may be hidden by default  - or some are. 

    You should be able to navigate the System folders to the folder into which you copied them from the memory card. Once the folder is selected the images should appear in the browser. Some processing to create thumbnails and previews will take place.

    You can then edit them. To keep that folder referenced for that session make it a "Favourite".

    There are some benefits to having the folder as a subfolder of the session folder if you want to keep everything together for backup, etc. But such things are optional. There are also some benefits for the importing regime but that is also optional for a Session. (Compulsory for a Catalog).

    Let's see where that gets you before considering what else you benefit from knowing.

     

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  • Marco Hyman

    What SFA said.  In picture format:

     

    The Library tab is selected.  My tabs will look different than yours because I've rearranged them and added a custom tabs.

    I've selected a folder named 1968.  That is in a folder named 196x which on an external disk named Photos.  The images inside the 1968 folder will show up in the Capture One browser window.

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  • Mark Romine

    Well duhhhhhhhh, it's a good thing that it wasn't a rattler. 

    I amusing a full version of C1 21.

    I'm actually a bit embarrassed to admit that have been using C1 since it's beginning, or very close to it anyway. Initially it was my defacto RAW processor. Way back in the early 2000s like 2000/2001. I started shooting digital with a Cannon 30D, remember those? I have always been a Mac user and in those days there were not very many 'good' options for RAW processors for the Mac side of things. At that time I was was primality shooting weddings so high file volume. All of my colleges were raving about C1 as a RAW processor, the only dig, I was on Mac and C1 was only available on Windows. So I went out and got a Windows machine just so that I could install and use C1. I continued using it up until version 4 and by that time LR was hitting the market and it had a workflow that favored processing large numbers of files. So I have been LR user since version 2.x something. I have always maintained my C1 license but I have not kept up with all the changes that have taken place with. Although I have always felt it was a better RAW processor for my Nikon files than LR, LR was just better at handling high volume. Plus in time it integrated the Color Checker Passport plug-in for making your own camera profiles which was significant when shooting weddings with multiple camera models. 

    Anyway, thanks again everyone for your kind help!

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  • Mark Romine

    Thanks Steve, with the help of everyone here pointing me to the Library folder I think I have it figured out now. 

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