Import function still a mess for Sony (Delete photo after import broken)
Hi, when you select "Delete images on SD card" during import from a Sony camera, the SD card is corrupted and the "database" needs to be fixed by pressing some buttons on the camera before playback works there again properly. Otherwise undisplayable files are listed on the SD card.
This has been an annoying issue for ages with Capture One and remains the one reason I still have the Sony Play Memories Home program on my Windows PC. This SW is able to move the files from the SD card and update the SD card image database properly. But of course this needlessly complicates the workflow.
Now Capture One has offered a Sony specific version for years but during all those years they have not been able to or felt the need to bother fixing this issue. I guess a short call to the Sony guys would have been enough to get the info to implement this properly
The recent hefty price hike in spite of Capture One still not having fixed such solvable problems frankly stops me from upgrading further and actually wondering about leaving C1 behind.
There are other things like the entire lack of any Sony custom picture preset or the 1% of exported JPGs messed up when using OpenCL.
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I have never, ever, allowed Capture One to delete files from a card after import. I have always assumed it is too risky - I'd rather still have them on the card until I know that they are all OK on the computer, and ideally until I have them backed up too. It's only a moment's work to get the camera to re-format, or erase, the SD card when I want to.
I imagine that there is no difference in the "erase after import" functionality in the Sony specific version compared with the other versions. (I assume that you are importing from the card by inserting it into a card reader?) Possibly Sony cameras don't like using cards formatted by other software.
I would think that whether they have Sony custom picture presets depends on the arrangements they have with Sonly. The Fuji version can take account of in camera profiles (for some Fuji cameras at least) so it is not that they can't do it, but they may need a degree of collaboration with the camera manufacturer and Fuji may be more forthcoming with that than Sony.
Ian
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Ian, that is YOUR choice not to have C1 delete the files after import. Reformatting the card is an extra task to do: power on the camera, dig into the menus (and with a Sony that is a long way to go).
But I have been doing this with the Sony Software for years without issue. I mostly hook up the camera with USB directly, seldomly use a card reader because youneed to open the hatch fiddle the card out, fiddle it into the reader, insert reader into PC etc and reverse.
And C1 provides this function - only that it does not work properly because the implementation is broken. And that is a pain - C1 V21 especially proclaims speeding up the workflow - but doesn't manage to do the basic tasks properly - for years
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One of my cameras is a Sony (RX10 iii) so I recognise the difficulty of getting cards in and out - the flap doesn't leave quite enough space for my fingers to grasp the card easily, and I don't have particularly large hands. And the menu item to format the card is not quickly accessible.
I would expect that if any software could do it without a problem it would be Sony's own, of course.
Capture One can't import direct from most cameras (except when tethering) though I am aware that it can for some models, presumably yours being one of them.
You may have tried this already, but if you do put the card in a card reader, and import with the erase after import option checked, do you have the same problem?
Ian
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See if the comment from "dev null" in this post offers any useful guidance.
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Thanks but no help. This is only a description of the situation. C1 deletes the files but does not update the "bookkeeping" file on the card. Going into the Sony camera menu and restoring the Database solves the problem for the moment but is actually no help in having a simple fast workflow.
I want to import the photos and them automatically deleted afterwards from the SD card - without any further manual actions required with the Sony camera. I personally don't think this is too much to ask for.
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