Preferences in color control through workflow / Mac OSX 11.2.3.
The most important thing before you start working with Capt. One is the control of the color space: Monitor calibration, printer-ink-paper combination profiling. One solution offers Spyder from Datracolor. For that you have to import ICC profiles and turn off ColorSync for the printer. It works for printing but not for the monitor. Importing files in basic color management seems not to work and in the long list of profiles with camera models (makes for me no sense) and others there is no access to my ICC monitor profil. I have posted this issue 2 years ago and nobody had an answer. Where are the professionals? Drinking coffee in home office?
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Hi Thomas,
I don't clearly undersatnd your question.
A colour management workflow is made from three parts : the monitor, the software, the printer.
For the monitor, you have to calibrate it using a colour calibration device and associated software, which gives you back your monitor profile, which shouldn't be used neither in Capture One, nor with your printer. In no case you should use your monitor profile for Capture One or your printer. The monitor profile is just there in order to ensure that what you see on the screen will prefigure what you'll have on your prints. Accordingly, you will not find the ICC monitor profile in the list of the Capture One profiles. If, by chance, you find it in a list and try to add it to the list of the recommended profiles for Capture One (import, process or export), don't use it !
Capture One works in a rather large colour space that we don't need to know, and your images are imported under the ICC colour profile of your camera. The images are exported using a colour space, or printed using a printing management by Capture One or by the printer, then using the ICC printer profile.
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Hi Robert.
I see you are not familiar with Datacolor/ Spyder philosophy. A webinar would help perhaps. Photoshop e.g. don't take care of the origin of the pictures/ the cameras. You have the result on your monitor and you follow the adaptation with your software from a personal point of view. But you must have the control of your colours through the whole process; the look, the final print with your printer-ink-paper combination. To let do the job by other parameters is a hazardous game. In Capture One I don't know what I see. Is it the cameras ICC? A generic Adobe profile? To print with the printers ICC profiles is like looking in a sphere of a fortune teller.
Can you explain me how you manage not to fall in traps? Thanks.
Best wishes Thomas.
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In Capture One, the cameras ICC profiles are used only for demosaicizing, no more. Adobe is not a profile, but a colour space and, except if you want to see how your image would look in an Adobe RGB space, you don't need to care about the space in which Capture One is working.
I don't know which Spyder you are referring to. If it is the Spyder X, then it looks like the one I use for my display calibration (x-rite i1 display pro). If your monitor is calibrated, you'll be able to have a look at your picture on your display, depending upon what you intend to do with it. If it is for printing, you can simulate on your screen the expected printed result. If it is for publishing on the Web, you can simulate how your image would look under sRGB.
In Capture One, you can choose the colour space (or profile) in the "Process recipes", provided View -> Proof profile -> selected recipe is checked. You then simulate in the same way as Photoshop. I don't have any trouble with printing from Capture One (except that their printing module is awful !). It works in the same way as with Photoshop.
But maybe I don't understand your question.
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Thank you for your additional informations. I don't care about colour space while working. The colour space which comes with the picture is handled in Cpt. One automatically. It doesn't ask me like photoshop. Is this correct?
The proof profile is set to Monitor ICC calibration. So I have the possibility how it looks like after printing.
Ok. For printing Imageprograf by Canon has a separate software to choose and turn off ColorSync. It is a little complicate. I am unhappy that Photoshop CS6 is out of support in Big Sur. Rest in peace.
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I also use Photoshop CS6 and stick at Mojave just for that !
Yes, of course, Capture One doesn't ask anything about the working colour space, while Photoshop does.
As far as I am concerned, I set the proof profile to my printer ICC profile for printing, not to my monitor ICC profile.
I am interested in the way in which the Canon printing software can manage the printing without using ColorSync, as the computer CMS is involved anyway. But I don't know the ImageProGraf printer... So, don't worry !
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