Healing and Clone Brush
I love the Healing and Clone Brushes for object removal such as branches etc.
I typically crop an image first of all and if I then use the heal brush it often selects the source point in the discarded area which is a pain if I want to move it. Same with trying build up a heal or clone area gradually, the source point appears to be selected from the layer below rather than the current layer. This means that you can end up brushing in an area you've jut removed.
Is there a way to force selection of the source point from the current layer?
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Sure: press the Option key when selecting your desired source point.
You can also drag source points by click-drag.
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You missed the point. It will still source from the area beneath the newly healed area.
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Does it? I've noticed that I sometimes get a different result AFTER painting with the brush compared to what I see while painting. I've assumed that it was not processing all layers while the brush is in motion.
But assuming you are correct, how about creating a second healing layer?
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A couple of things.
First, so we’re on the same page, “source” is where the brush is going to sample from, and “target” is where those pixels are going to painted onto (i.e. what you’re trying to replace). Same for Heal and Clone.
Marco, there are some quirks—especially with the Healing brush—that I haven’t yet figured out. One thing you can try is dragging the heal/clone layer up or down in your layer stack (assuming you have adjustment layers in addition to heal/clone). I find that sometimes the results of healing (not cloning) look lighter than the surrounding area and the source area. When this happens, dragging the source spot around doesn’t usually help, but changing the heal layer’s position in the stack sometimes does.
A workaround I’ve used sometimes when the healed area comes out too light is to create a clone layer beneath the heal layer in the stack, and then clone something onto the area where healing didn’t quite work.
I suspect the problem has to do with C1’s blending calculations. I was hoping it would be fixed by now, but sadly it isn’t.
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While they do a reasonably good job there’s sometimes I just give up and export to Affinity Photo which does a superb job.
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Surely the Heal and Clone tools always source from the original Source file - i.e. the Background "layer" in effect. Source data with (usually) minimal processing involved - in the case of a RAW file just enough processing to make it look like an image rather than a blob of colour data.
The starting point for that, depending on zoom level, is likely the Preview file data during the edit process.
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Abbott,
Yes, I observed the same weird phenomenon when I try to move the healing source : the result on the target is brighter when expected, as soon as I stop using the mouse/trackpad. I told the Capture One staff when I was beta-testing the new tool, and the answer was a bit disappointing. They told me to disable Open CL, based on the fact that:
"Apple and Nvidia stopped releasing new drivers since macOS 10.14 Mojave due to different lawsuits agendas, meaning the there will be probably no further Nvidia updates in the future, which is probably the cause of the OpenCL issue."
And, of course, it didn't work better.
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Robert,
It's not an nVidia issue: my machines all have AMD GPUs and I still see the problem occasionally and inexplicably. Just had it happen again yesterday on a machine that's got a RX580 GPU. I think there's something going on that maybe the Capture One team doesn't quite understand. I just use my workaround, which seems to work every time.
A sad thing is that even the latest C1 release is still using OpenCL, and not Metal. However, I think I read somewhere that sometime C1 21 is adding native Apple Silicon support, so maybe we'll all get Metal later this year and the "disable OpenCL" thing won't come up again.
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