Syncing layers between photos
Hey folks,
My question: how do I copy adjustments of one photo to all selected photos, including adjustment layers, without creating an additional copy of those layers?
Some context: One of my uses of Capture1 is to prepare photos for stitching into a spherical panorama. This means that it's vital that all photos have the same look, otherwise you'll see visible seams.
I'm a relatively novice user of Capture1, and I've just started using adjustment layers to dial in the look that I want. In my workflow I often have to switch between photos to get a feel of how my settings will influence the final result, as each photo is looking in a different direction and thus has different illumination. So, I go to a photo, make adjustments, sync those to the other photos, go to another photo, make some more adjustments, and sync those again. However, when I use layers, after each Copy+Apply it creates another copy of the layer. How do I avoid this?
For example, I have a "shadow colour" layer that's luma-masked to only influence darker areas. If I tweak the contrast slider in this layer and press Copy and Apply, now all my photos have another "shadow colour" layer. I just want to copy the contrast tweak I did to the "shadow colour" layer of all those other photos. How do I do this?
Thanks for any pointers,
Sybren
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hm, very much understand your problem but as c1 does not listen to user and obvious sees no need to change this back to the old behaviour prior v20 where layers had been replaced and not added I suggest you go back to LR or whatever software you have used before.
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What you can do is delete the old shadow colour layer from the target images before pasting in the new one. You may not find that as convenient as the old layer behaviour that CSP refers to, but it can be done. (And the new layer behaviour is preferred by some users for some situations. One of those situations where you can't please all of the people all of the time. There could of course be a preference to use the old or new behaviour, which might please more people more of the time, but even then there would be situations that called for the opposite.)
Ian
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i find it very disturbing how some user here try to create an alternative reality to justify their made up opinion in favour of c1. in this imaginary reality a substantial group of user thought that the normal behaviour for an app which main workflow goal is to apply the same settings to more than one image is wrong and needs a change. interestingly you will not find one complain about this old behaviour on this forum or others, strange no ? how often have you Ian addressed this problem before the change happend with v20 or can you point me to some evidence showing user complaining about it. the "and the new layer behaviour is preferred by some users for some situations " is total nonsense and a spin by less than a handful user here nothing more.
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CSP - I am not trying to create an alternative reality! I am suggesting a workaround that the OP could use so as to be able to get on with his work. And it is obvious enough, I think, that the change to this behaviour was made because it was thought to be better, not just to make life more difficult for users. I completely understand that not all users agree with that.
Ian
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...but nobody seems able to explain what is better or can you point me to something c1 has published in favour of this change ? the developers of all other raw converter seem to be idiots too because they still use the bad approach, right ?
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CSP - I really don't think that there is much point in continuing this discussion. The OP asked My question: how do I copy adjustments of one photo to all selected photos, including adjustment layers, without creating an additional copy of those layers? and I tried to provide an answer. I know from your various posts that there are multiple things about Capture One that you are unhappy about, but as no more than a fellow user, there is nothing I can do about it.
Ian
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of course there is no point to go further because every time a user sees the new behaviour as an problem you and a fews other come up defending this change with a spin where a lot of user had a problem with the old behaviour but the reality is that idiots made this decision ignoring real user needs for whatever reason but for sure not to improve anything.
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As I said, I won't continue. Have a nice day.
Ian
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> What you can do is delete the old shadow colour layer from the target images before pasting in the new one.
Thanks for the answer (and keeping the discussion on-topic).
What I'll try is this:
- Copy the adjustments
- Reset all photos
- Apply the copied adjustments
I hope this works, because I'm certainly not going to go over 190 photos (38 positions per panorama, 5-photo exposure bracketing per position) one by one to delete that one adjustment layer.
> One of those situations where you can't please all of the people all of the time.
I'm a developer of Blender, so I know a bit about making software for a wide audience. Indeed, you can't please everybody all the time. However, I don't think that an operation "make all selected photos look like this one" is a very nieche one.
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Hi Sybren - that should work I think. Try it on a couple of images first before you do 190 in one go, but I think it is OK.
Ian
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"don't think that an operation "make all selected photos look like this one" is a very nieche one"
...one might think, but obvious not in the c1 universe.
the problem with this work around is that it is very easy to make mistakes when dealing with large amounts of images , helpful here is to organise the images in folders or albums first but nothings changes the fact that it is totally unnecessary time consuming....
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> ...one might think, but obvious not in the c1 universe.
I try to keep the "obvious" to a minimum. What is obvious to one is complex or unexpected to another.> the problem with this work around is that it is very easy to make mistakes when dealing with large amounts of images , helpful here is to organise the images in folders or albums first
Yeah, that one is obvious, to me anyway ;-)
If it gets too annoying I'll see if I can dive into the C1 SDK and make a little plugin that does what I need.
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If it gets too annoying I'll see if I can dive into the C1 SDK and make a little plugin that does what I need.
lucky you, I´m just a photographer so let as know when you found a way to fix this but I fear that diving into the sdk will lead to another disappointment.....
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