sRBG Recommend Profile Creating Weird Colors
I have been using the generic default sRGB color profile on export to jpegs. Everything looks fine, no issues I thought. Until I went to print the file on my ink jet printer. The color was very very distorted on the printer. I assumed it was my printer and swapped out my printer and the same thing happened. I couldn't understand, I know there would be some different but this was major major difference. I assumed my Epson photo printer preferred sRGB. I checked my profile to make sure it was sRGB in photoshop. It was, but it didn't have the standard photoshop sRGB look. Photoshops is much longer vs CaptureOne it was just sRGB. I did a profile conversion change from CaptureOne's recommended sRGB to Photoshops default sRGB, the conversion altered the colors dramatically. I didn't expect that much color to change.
The only way I was able to get things looking right was to export to Adobe RGB, then convert to sRGB inside of Photoshop. Can anyone explain to me the difference of CapureOne's sRGB profiles compared to industry standard? I never assumed there was a big difference, but clearly I found a situation that it deeply impacts the color.
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Hi Karl,
You are probably faced with a colour management issue. sRGB is a colour space, not a printer profile. If you are printing with Photoshop, be sure all your colour management chain is consistent, i.e. if you let Photoshop manage the printer, be sure you have the right printer profile, and not sRGB.
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I totally can see how you would go there. I'm super comfortable with ICC profiles, I've fingerprinted presses before, used spectrometers, ect..... My problems has nothing to do with the screen not matching the printed file. What is happening makes no sense to me, but something is different with the file internally even though they both are sRGB.
File 1 Exported from Capture One as sRGB JPEG. I print to my epson 860. File comes out much much more red and very dark and all shadows are plugged. It's as if all the shadows have had a full stop of light removed from them.
File 1 Exported from Capture One as ADOBE RGB TIFF, inside of photoshop I convert to sRGB and saved as a JPEG file. When this is printed it comes out much much closer to what I see on my screen and is much more acceptable match. No hue shift to red, and the shadows don't nearly darken the same way.
I'm sending the RAW file an sRGB JPEG to the printer (I just create that sRGB JPEG in two different ways, and yes on screen they are identical, they look exactly the same no difference). But they print very very differently, night and day differently. What I can't understand is what is Capture One doing when they embed sRGB color profiles into the JPEGs. Whatever process is taking place here effects how the printer sees and handles color. When I view both files in Photoshop they have matching sRBG profiles. From everything I can see they are exactly the same file, but clearly something is different. Something small because they are not treated the same when I print them.
All files where opened in Photoshop and printed to the inkjet printer.
I'm not worried about matching colors from monitor to printer, I'm trying to figure out why what appears to be exactly two identical files are handled differently. What/how is Capture One embedding the sRGB profile, how it different than when Photoshop coverts and embeds the sRGB profile. There is something different here, it may seem small on on paper doesn't matter. I can clearly tell you my printer believes it matters.
Why it matters, I'm shooting a live event and handing cards off to my assistant. She process the images in Capture One and prints them to the printer to be delivered onsite within an hour. This was my first time doing this since the start of COVID, before COVID I used Lightroom. During COVID I switched to Capture One. Not being able to just export a JPEG ready to print and having to do a additional step slows things down and leaves more room for error. Also whatever glitch/technical difference exist how else will this effect other things for me in the future.
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