Export - Sort order
Hi, how can I keep the sort order of "Manual" while exporting the images? While all the other orders like by Aperture/Date/Rating etc. seems to stay the same in the Export window, the Manual one falls apart & jumps to another one like Date etc.
I arranged my photographs in a specific order & I would like to keep it the same way for exporting. (Did not have this issue until recently, so seems to be a recent update)!
Thank you! Aron
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Why does it matter to you what order they process in? Are you adding a counter to them or something?
Ian
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I have some 300x photographs of several models to export. Each model shot different outfits during the day so I made a final selection of "best of" images of each model. I would like to keep the exact same order while exporting, so when I process them further - creating an online gallery, sending them to clients etc - I don't have to go through hundreds of images again & everything is arranged as intended.
Yes, I'm adding a counter to them & I rename the files too.
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One of many things they ruined in 14.3. We've scripted a workaround for it if you're on macOS.
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I feel your pain. Manual sorts are not calculated from parameters. The database has to deal with arbitrary non parametric data to set a manual sort order. Unfortunately, Capture One cannot encode this data when exporting images as a catalog and importing them into another catalog. If this has been fixed with version 14, I will be greatly impressed.
I often sort images in albums in the field, especially when shooting scenes of hiking trails. Often shots made on different days make more sense when shown to an audience when placed in a geographical order. In exporting (as a catalog) any container with albums having images been manually sorted, the Manual order reverts to Name order when that catalog is imported into another catalog. This has been the case since I first started using Capture One 8.
So, when I need to preserve the sort order, I rename the manually sorted images using a counter token at the beginning of the name to create a numerical prefix. Capture One appends the counter to each image in order. After importing the images, I change the imported images' s sort order to Manual. Sometimes this results in an unpredictable shuffling of the images' order. To prevent this, I move an image manually and then moved it back to force Capture One to leave the images in order. After this, I remove the numerical prefixes from the names. You could write a simple script to remove the prefixes.
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Hi Martin, thank you for your reply! I'm getting the following error message when running the script (Process in correct order), do I miss something. Tried different folders on the hard drive, does not seem to go through.
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Hi Jerry, thank you for your reply! I find it ridiculous that we have to go through all this extra steps just to be able to accomplish a simple task like exporting images in a custom order. I really hope someone from Capture One is reading this.
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Aron,
Use one of the dedicated "Feature Request" threads to submit your suggestion and/or the "Submit a request" option to create a support case for the same.
Those are officially monitored options.
The rest of the forum is primarily User to User activity.
If you add a prefix to the images via the token functionality using some suitable token(s) that fit with the output order you need you may be able to achieve a form or "sort" that works for you in the same way that a manual ordering activity would.
From memory this concern has a long history but was changed at some point a few versions ago. So it should be re-fixable, one way or another.
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Hi SFA, thanks for the input! I will post it in the corresponding thread!
Have a nice day, Aron
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My workaround for this is to do a batch rename of the master files themselves inside C1 then export. Not fun but does the trick. Once the export is complete I use the Finder renaming feature on macOS to remove the indexing and ge the files names back to what they were.
I too am adding this to the Feature Request thread and pointing it out to the C1 team on Twitter too.
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I am using a catalog. I use this same method to index the files by doing a batch rename, but I have a script that removes the indexing prefix after I import them. I thought if you used Finder to rename files, C1 would no longer see them.
Could you describe exactly how you make this work? Are you doing it with managed or reference files? Are you using a catalog or session?
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I simply select the photos in C1 after they've been sorted, right click, choose Batch Rename which gives a warrning of "Renaming referenced images will change their filename on disk..."
This then renames the referenced photos in Finder. I can either choose to keep the files renamed after export or use an app called NameChanger to remove the indexing I added.
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I use the same process to rename. Capture One maintains the link to the files this way. I then import tthat catalog with the renamed files into my main catalog and remove the prefix with a Capture One Apple script and then move the files within Capture One to referenced file folders. This works with referenced files, but if you change a name in a managed file, it does not change the name of the managed file on disk, only on the thumbnail, but that image retains its link to the managed file on disk.
However, I thought anything that went outside of Capture One to change names in Finder would render the file in need of relinking to Capture One. That is why I use a script from within Capture One. Does NameChanger work outside of Capture One and if so, would this mean than any way of changing a filename in Finder would also change it in Capture One and retain the link? If so, you could sue the change name function of finder.
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Jerry - probably adequately answered by previous responses, but just in case...
If you rename via Finder, Capture One won't know about it, true. But if you rename using the tools in Capture One, it renames the actual files on disc so Finder does know about that. The important thing is to do your renaming through Capture One not through Finder.
Ian
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Yeah I'm just realizing that when using referenced files this isn't the best approach. Did some digging inside Capture One Batch Rename options and there is no "Remove Characters" option or the like so renaming the files back to their original name isn't feasible.
Tho for the time being I'm okay with the renaming at the finder level however C1 needs to fix this and quick. Hoping the Feature Request and Tweet I sent get heard.
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Same issue here. Trying to export a wedding that is in a manual order and the new shining exporter will only export in name order first only. It was fine in C20 and worked completely fine. Currently can't deliver clients images without exporting each photo on its own. Needs a quick fix so request has been sent.
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Tom, if you're on macOS, grab the script I put together as a workaround and follow the instructions: https://www.mkphotomedia.com/blog/export-order-and-process-subfolders-in-capture-one-143-there-fixed-it-for-ya-part-ii
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