Organizational Tools:Stacks and Variants v2
I suggested the following about a year ago. Here's a revised suggestion now that C1 has HDR and panos. This is a pretty complicated feature request, but it would address quite a few organizational problems in C1
Suggestion:
This suggestion combines and elaborates some suggestions that have appeared earlier, and deals with two complementary ways of organizing images: Variants and Stacks. Variants are the existing way of grouping and prioritizing multiple edits of the same underlying images. Stacks are a way of grouping (and sometimes prioritizing) multiple different images that may be related for a variety of reasons. By Stacks, I do not mean actually combining the images as in HDR, panoramas or focus stacking, though this organizational tool is useful for all three. Stacks were, as far as I know, originally introduced in Apple’s Aperture software.
Motivation:
The motivation for Variants is the same as now: it allows the user to try our multiple strategies for editing an image, and to order them by preference.
There are several motivations for Stacks. One may stack sets of bracketed images that are intended to be used for HDR, panos or focus stacking . But stacks can also fulfill a role sort of like variants. One may have taken a burst of images of a sports scene, or a set of slightly different compositions of a landscape or a portrait. Grouping these together can be useful for later editing or selection.
Implementation
Stacks may be created manually, by selecting a group of images and picking a menu item, or automatically. A stack will be created automatically when a group of images is selected and used to make either an HDR or a pano. In addition any HDR or pano dng that is created should be added to the stack. A stack may also be created automatically based on the time the image was taken. A menu command should allow a user settable time interval that determines how close in time images need to be for auto stacking (this is how Apple's Aperture worked)
Stacks and Variants should be combined into one, hierarchal, grouping with Stacks at the top level and Variants one level below. Within a Stack it should be possible to promote or demote an image, and within a set of Variants it should be possible to promote or demote as well Both Stacks and Variants should be collapsible in the browser
So for a completely collapsed stack in the browser you would see the most promoted Variant of the most promoted image of the Stack. If you opened up the Stack you would see the most promoted variants of all the images in the Stack, and if you open a Variant in the stack you’d see all the Variants for that image .
It should be possible to name a Stack or any Variant in the Stack. I’m not quite sure what the best way to display these names would be, Its could either be an overlay on the image in the browser or an addition to the label with the file name. Perhaps the group name should only be shown when the group is fully collapsed.
When adding a Stack or a Variant to an album, what is added should be controlled by what is selected in the browser. So for example, if a Stack is fully collapsed and selected in the browser, then the most promoted variants of each image in the stack should be added to the album. If a Stack is open, and a collapsed variant group is selected, then the most promoted Variant should be added to the album. If a Variant group is open and multiple variants are selected, then they get added to the album.
The same rules can apply for exporting images or using the Edit with command.
Since it is common for one to want a Stack of images that are going to an HDR , focus stack or stitching app to have the same exposure settings, it might be nice to have a command that would set the most promoted variants of the images in a stack to the same exposure. But this can be done manually, so its less important.
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Thanks Will for this feature request and perfect description! I agree in every aspect.
If this feature request would be implemented in C1 it would be a dream come true for me. I hoped for a stacking feature with each and every version update of C1 in the past. It would give photographers so much more possibilities for our workflow and image organization.
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Yes, please please please make stacking a priority for new feature development! I can’t abandon Lightroom completely unless/until you do so. Other catalogue organizing improvements too would help C1 take over more market share from LR.
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