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  • BeO
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    Do you want to buy a gfx card only or also update your motherboard and CPU?

    When comparing graphic cards, this is the best comparsion I know of, in fact it is the only I know of, but it has been sort of advised by a C1 staff member in the past:

    https://compubench.com/result.jsp?benchmark=compu15d&test=588&text-filter=&order=median&ff-desktop=true&os-OS_X_cl=true&os-Windows_cl=true&pu-CPU=true&pu-dGPU=true&pu-iGPU=true&pu-mGPU=true&pu-CPU-iGPU=true&pu-ACC=true&arch-ARM=true&arch-x86=true&base=device

    Some background discussion about this benchmark:

    https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360012241298-OpenCl-benchmark-OpenCL-Luxmark-vs-Direct-Compute-

     

    The MX450 is not in there, but the MX250 is. I use an older GTX 960 with an relatively new Intel 8core (16 with Hyperthreading) 11th gen CPU, and SSD drives,  32MB RAM, and the speed for C1 is sufficient for me, the GPU only slightly faster then the new CPU.

    C1 needs a fast overall system, including the CPU for some of its processes or sub processes, so it is advisable to have balanced system in order to not create a bottleneck with one component being too weak.

     

     

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  • BeO
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    An easy test: Compare harware acceleration enabled vs. disabled on your daughters laptop,

    import, preview re-generation, moving sliders, bruhing masks, use luma range, copy a fully developed image settings to other images, exporting images, filtering in a bigger catalog or session, switching between images in the viewer.

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  • David Johnson

    Thanks Beo. I'll check out the links. 

    At the moment I have 2 options. I've just replaced my daughters desktop with a laptop and turned that into an Unraid NAS. My wife's work may have some old servers they are getting rid of, so option 1 is moving my NAS to the old server (if it's good enough) and then claiming that desktop for my new machine. At the moment it's got a Ryzen 3 3200g with inbuild graphics, 16GB Ram and and a 512GB SSD. So I would just add a graphics card for now, then a bit later get a better CPU and more RAM. 

    Option 2 is I just start from scratch, so looking at CPU, motherboard etc. Possibly a Ryzen 5 5600X or 7 5800X or one of the new 12th gen Intel chips. Then just build from there, and get a decent GPU, but just not sure which. 

    Good idea for a test. Once I'm finished this dance photo job this week, I'll have some time and play around with disabling the hardware acceleration and also see if I can disable the mx450 and just have it run off the iGPU and compare. 

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  • SFA

    David,

    Much depends on your budget and whether you would prefer a desktop or a laptop (or both!)

    Also, if you anticipate undertaking many more large scale shoots like your Dance event in the future, the output performance (and the size of the files your camera produces) may be more significant than the interactive editing performance. 

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  • David Johnson

    SFA

    I actually really like having everything on a laptop, but I think it's going to be best to split it and have both. I'm an IT person in my other life, so I want a decent desktop so I can run some virtual machines to play around with things. 

    At the moment I'm looking at doing some more large scale shoots like the dance event (next one is in April), but long term they might be semi regular at the most. I've got a Canon 70D at the moment, so only 20MP files, but at some time in the future I would like to upgrade to something like a Sony A7IV, so 33MP, so I need to have something that can handle the bump in resolution or I can upgrade later to handle that, when I eventually upgrade. Computer comes first, new camera will have to wait a while. 

    The output performance would be great if it's really quick, but if it's a bit slower then I can export say overnight. At the moment it takes about 12 secs to export a single jpg from my raw files, where on my daughters laptop it's about 2 secs. So much quicker to export a bunch of photos as I'm going, but if I need to leave them overnight, 2500 photos takes about 8-9 hours on my old laptop. Not great, but I can leave it overnight. But if click the wrong recipe, or forgot a setting, then it's another 8-9 hours of re exporting :( If the interactive editing performance is slow, that really slows me down in this case when you quickly go in and bulk adjust for exposure, colour etc, then for each photo straighten, crop and maybe adjust exposure on the odd one. That's what's really slow on my old laptop, if I go to straighten a photo freehand, you drag the mouse, it waits, then it moves, you think, ok, but it may have registered it as 2 moves and it moves again, so you have to wait for it to settle, then ok, crop and it stutters, and then next photo. Even with my daughters laptop, straightening freehand is smooth, and crop is mostly smooth, so it saves me a ton of time if I'm going through a few thousand photos. Roughly I would get through 3-4 times the amount of photos in an hour compared to my old laptop. 

    Cheers

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  • Class A

    Thanks, BeO, for sharing the pointer to the benchmark results and the discussion with Christian Grüner.

    I would not trust the Compubench results one bit, though. They might be based on very different levels of driver maturity or something else is going on (are they not based on identical CPU configurations, perhaps?). The results simply do not make sense given the known number of CUDA cores, bus bandwidth and memory speed figures, etc. for various NVIDIA models. The respective results are all over the place, rarely corresponding to what one should expect based on the hardware differences. 

    Now, if those wacky results reflect actual real world performance in C1 then what's not to like, however, I doubt it. 

    Just a heads up for anyone who might not be familiar with what one should expect from various graphics card models.  

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  • Lukáš Čvančara

    Hi,
    I would like to see benchmark of Open CL acceleratoin of C1 but for some reason I'm not able to acces it on: 

    https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360012241298-OpenCl-benchmark-OpenCL-Luxmark-vs-Direct-Compute-

    Or if there is something more actual ? 
    I'm trying to find out what graphic card to buy for example is better :

    GeForce RTX 3050 StormX, 8GB GDDR6  supporting Open CL v.3 or AMD RADEON RX 6650 XT Open CL v. 2.1 ?

    Thank you in advance 

    Kind regards 

    Lukas

     

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