C1 ver 14.4.1.6 Working with files and folders, Catalogs and Sessions
My fault for not making a Catalog each time I open C1 to edit images. I always moved images from my cameras to separate folders on my PC. I just kept starting C1, and having it linked to the image folder on my hard drive, and focused on editing image in C1, without paying attention to the structure. Now I Just realized my mistake, and am trying to correct it. I wound up with a folder on my drive with a lot of Raw files in it from various shoots. I have put in Assistance requests, but I'm sure the Support Group is very busy.
I want to clean up my file structure, an only have Referenced Catalogs, and have the edits done available for each image, but each time I try, I just dig myself deeper...
Here are the Q's I sent in:
How can one tell if a Catalog is Managed or Referenced?
In some Catalogs the images cannot be located, as that is grayed out.
When I tried copying the images in C1 viewer, to their original locations, they would disappear from the viewer.
How to import a Session or other Catalog into a new Catalog, and keep the edits?When I try that, there are no edits shown in the images in C1, only the defaults.
How to use C1 Library tools to find and open Catalogs? There must be a proper way. What I am doing now is going to a C1 folder, and having Windows open the catalog file with C1.
I really need your help to resolve all of this. I am OK with editing, my main concern is getting the structure fixed in C1.
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Lawrence,
There are quite a lot of Tutorials and Webinars available in the Community Resource pages that address thses sorts of questions.
So, as a starting point for the User community who may offer to help you, have to already reviewed those resources (and the User Guide) and come to the conclusion that you cannot find answers to your question?
Meanwhile, let me see if I can start to shine some light on the subject for you.
"How can one tell if a Catalog is Managed or Referenced?"
A catalog is not either Managed or Referenced unless you choose to manage it in that way.
The Images known to the catalog can be either Managed (imported to folders within the overall catalog data structure) or with the files referenced to a known location outside the Catalog data structure.
A catalog can have both types of connection to files.
"In some Catalogs the images cannot be located, as that is grayed out."
Usually, that implies that you have some Referenced images that are not currently available or, in rare situations, some files that are not within specification for editing within Capture One.
So for example if you have "imported" images as "referenced" and left them at an external location - perhaps a portable disk drive - if that drive is not available at the time you try to work with the image through the catalog you might find them identified as not available.
Are you using the Express version of C1 or one of the "Pro"/"Camera Manufacturer specific" versions?
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I was using the C1 Pro version for FUJI.
No images were on a remote drive.
It is possible that I have moved the catalog or, I don't know what. If I open up a catalog which has edits, and I click on an image and go Locate. When I locate the image, it disappears from the image lineup, which is not OK.
It has been more than a week now, and can't seem to get any action from the Support group.
Other than seeing images inside an Inside Catalog folder ,there is no other way in C1 to tell if one has an Inside Catalog or a Referenced Catalog. Hopefully they fix this in ver 15. Also, C1 should automatically set the program to the folder in the Library from which the Catalog was sourced. that is missing from C1. If you click on a different folder, the images change, but there is nothing to click on to take you back to the Catalog images.
Also, when I try to import a Catalog, from a *.cocatalogdb, it doesn't take in the edits. Thats not the way C1 is supposed to work.
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Laurence,
Your posts really suggests you should go for the Tutorials and Webinars, as SFA has pointed out, and play around with C1, to get a better understanding. I am not saying C1 has no bugs, but C1 give a lot of options to the user which always comes with complexity, which means the user has to work harder to understand all these options and concepts. The truth is, if you don't do this, you will not become happy with C1.
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Lawrence, sounds like you would be much more comfortable working with sessions.
You get one folder for each job containing both the images and edits.
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@gb
He has a migration problem, starting with several catalogs. I think he wants to save the edits he has done whilst restructuring the image locations and have one big referenced catalog, and it looks he has lost some images or image edits by trying this.Laurence, never use Windows Explorer when moving already edited or imported images, always use C1 library tool. Otherwise you'll end up with offline images and loose edits. Migrating from several catalogs to sessions is more complicated and more user-error-prone than into a referenced catalog.
And my advise, before you mess things up, read, view, and try out on dedicated trial catalogs which you can create for yourself.
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