import Windows Caprture One catalog on Mac
Hello
i have referenced catalog made on Windows, the catalog and photos are on external drive. I need to import catalog to Macbook. I try to import via menu in Capture One, but this fails. If i just open catalog on Mac it works, but C1 fails during backup creation, if i don't make backup and close C1 it does not open this catalog as deafult at start, so it's hard to say it was imported.
How to deal with it? i dont want to convert my referenced catalog into managed, i guess after this catalog would loose folder structure and all photos would be just in catalog, i want to keep them in folders.
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Hi Jakub
there are a few too many variables in your case to make a reliable assessment of your situation, but my suggestion would be to simply copy the C1 catalog file onto your macbook, but not the actual folder with the images (assuming your images are in a different folder from your catalog file). Once you open the catalog on your macbook all your source files should show up as "offline" at which point you just have to re-link them through the process of right clicking "Locate" on the source folder in the library panel and navigating to the corresponding folder on your external hard drive.
but again it's possible I misunderstood your problem.r
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Good day Rupprert,Photos and catalog are on the same extermal SSD disk and i would like to stay with that, just to be able to Capture 1 use this catalog as deufult. I know what you mean about folders locate option but this works only once. I mean i need to do this at every single C1 start on Mac. When i close C1 it ask to build backup and if i click to do it, it crash, i mean Capture 1 get "do not response" statusIf you need aby additional info to help i will provide you.br0
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hey jakub
as I was saying: there are too many variables that could be the cause of your problem to make a meaningfull assessment. with external hard drives on mac you also could have a file permission problem and dealing with it most often creates more problems than it solves.
let's start with something simple first then:
In the dialog that opens, when you close C1, what is your "Backup Location"?
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There was a deafult location but i changed it to the same external disk as the catalog and photos. I always did it in the same way on windows too and it worked perfect.
So the best option would be to have catalog folder od Mac internal drive and photos on external SSD?0 -
...well I am sure there are different schools regarding backup, catalog and raw file location but for work on location aka on a laptop, my approach has always been the following:
• raw files on external drive
• C1 catalog on the internal ssd of the laptop
• catalog backup on a cloud drive, in my case it's just on drop box.given that all the work you do is stored in the catalog file, it wouldn't be much of a backup if the backup catalog is in the same location as the original catalog. the backup catalog is also comparatively small so it's possible to store it on a cloud server like dropbox. you can roughly estimate about 100MB for the backup of a catalog with 10000 images. For comparison the actual catalog containing all the preview files will be around 18GB for the same 1000 images, so depending on how big a cloud account you have you might even want to store your catalog file directly on it (though some care should be taken learning all the ins and outs of file version handling on a cloud prior to doing that)
also in my experience with catalogs in C1 performance is determined by the speed of the drive where the catalog file is stored, regardless on where the raw files are. so the internal ssd of you laptop is a much better place for the catalog. I actually only connect the external drive if I either import or export files, but when working on the files I tend to leave the external drive disconnected, since I don't need the source files to work on the images once C1 has finished creating all the preview files.
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I have second external SSD so i always have the same photos and catalog copy on both.
To be honest i always connected external SSD when i was editing photos, i thought its necessary, (photos are there).
Ok, so should i tryb to copy catalog to the Mac internal drive, open from there and locate photos on external SSD? Would that solve the isuue?0 -
...I can't guarantee that it will solve your issue, but in the interest of trouble shooting the problem it can't hurt to try. My feeling is that you might have a file permission conflict if C1 crashes the moment you try to save the backup catalog on the external hard drive, which is why I'd suggest to first try to save the backup catalog to a location other than the external hard drive and see if it still crashes. If it doesn't and everything else behaves as expected, there is no need to change your habits of leaving everything on the external ssd (except maybe the backup catalog).
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Ok i will try within an hour or so. But do you know what causes this file permission conflict? How to solve it, is it possibile?
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...file permissions can be a complicated subject at least if taking pictures is your main occupation and not tweaking software. It's not a problem limited to C1. Adobe LR as well quite regularly has some file permission conflict, but given that Adobe has some 24000 employees as opposed to the 120 employees of Capture One, they have a detailed list of instructions of what to do when that happens.
Basically if your Mac laptop has no permissions to write to certain folders on your external hard drive C1 can't access that folder either. There are a couple of ways how you can change that, but as I said earlier they can also create more problems. Check the web for "file permission, external drive, windows, mac" and add maybe lightroom or capture one to your web search and you'll get the idea.But until established that file permissions are really what is causing your problem I wouldn't do anything.
Try to drag a file from your laptop to the folder that C1 was trying to save the backup to and see if it lets you.0 -
ok, looks like catalog on internal disk could work, but looks like previews would be created on internal disk too. This is what I want to avoid. My windows catalog is huge, and I would not like to store those huge previews files on internal disk.
if I open catalog on external SSD od my Mac it finally work, backup creation on internal disk work too. Unfortunately when I exit C1 and lunch it again catalog somehow lose some photos, if I do folder sync, it works- but I receive initial images without any corrections I made before...
I can either write and load files on my Mac from any external SSD folder.
Now I created new blank catalog on external disk and I try to import my old catalog into this new one, but looks like it would not be good enough. In import windows there lower total number of photos to be imported than it should be.
i'm afraid there is no chance to import Windows C1 catalog on Mac...it's disappointing.
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...I do not want to make any assumptions, but from the way you are describing your situation I get the feeling that you might make things a little more complicated than what they need to be, which is not to say that C1 might not have a problem, but I believe that there could be fairly simple workarounds rather than to give up altogether in frustration.
So let me ask you, how many images are in your huge windows catalog?
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it's a massive catalog with over 15 000 photos. Anyway, somehow, now it's working. I would not say it's imported- as I need to open it manually every single time, but after open I have all photos available. To be honest I'm not sure how I did it... The fact is, i have this catalog now on external SDD, photos as well and everything is working well. several photo adjustments are missing, but it's about 20 pcs, so not bad.
Anyway, with new photos I will proceed with "sessions", I have enough stress with C1 catalogs :)
Thank you Ruppert for your time and support.
Br
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