Crop Names, Display in Viewer & Filtering
Currently, there is no way to determine a variant's crop ratio other than to divide the dimensions displayed when the crop tool is active. If the crop selected in the tool differs from the variant's crop, a single errant click changes the variant.
I request that Crop Names (standard and user-defined, as displayed in the crop tool dropdown menu) be variant-specific metadata, like color tags and star ratings. Also, the Crop Name should be displayed in the viewer and be usable for filtering.
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There are no crop names currently. Only ratios, used to provide some guidance to the cropping process.
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Yes, there are currently crop names. A) Standard names: Unconstrained, Original, and Output - those aren't names? B) When you create a user-defined crop you enter a width and height, and a Name - which can be numeric or text. Try it.
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The "Standard names" are just descriptions of methods that can be used to create crops.
The "Ratios" are much the same. They tell us nothing about orientation or the ultimate size of the output.
The last time I looked the Ratio(name) was not stored in the edit information for the variant - so there is no name to report or by which to filter. Just the resulting starting points for the corners of the crop related to the pixels in the image file and the number of pixels included. The size (pixel quantity) may then be modified according to the definition of the Output Recipe(s) selected.
What you are proposing requires formalisation of a naming convention for ratios; some method of grouping and reporting for the "Methods" (if it is useful) plus naming conventions for them; and the addition of the allotted names to the edit data with that field becoming available to most/all outputs to screens, windows, filters, etc.
Even then I'm not sure that it would really deliver the benefits you are seeking. There may be a better way.
For example there is an existing option to filter by dimensions. It might be relatively easy to provide a calculation of the ratio from those numbers and so offer a visual display of the crop ratios for all images, not just those that were created by (initially) using a preset ratio.
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SFA: I noted in my original post, there already is variant-specific (not file-specific as stored in tag data in the RAW file) in Capture One - star rating and color tags. I'm NOT proposing a new type of displayable or filterable metadata. I know how ratios work - and for all you and I know, the menu displayed names like 2x3 are text tags. Yes, I want to see a simple tag name like 2x3, not 0.66666667.
I use the standard crops and user-defined crops - like, 9x16 for slideshows I display on my TV, and a golden ratio crop that I named Golden. These are not easily distinguished. And, NO, I should not have to call up a calculator to divide the width by height just to determine the crop - which is what I have to do now.
Now, let's let the C1 software engineers see what they can do here.
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I was thinking more of the application doing the calculation (based on the stored dimensions) rather than using a calculator or relying on a name in a field that does not currently exist in the metadata. Such a field would also not have anything to offer for a name if an entirely Unconstrained crop had been applied, unless it was reported as "Unconstrained" - which would be a bit pointless.
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Hi JSS,
many others have requested a variant specific variant name (ofrbetter an additional string field if you ask me at least), which could also be shown in browser, viewer, used for filtering. This would serve many purposes, including yours I believe, even if not 100% what you request here. But add the Undo function for your use case of errant clicks then you should be good to go, imo.
I wonder though how you select the variants which you dedicated and cropped for the TV slideshow. If it is possible to distingish these variants fom the variants with the golden crop, e.g. by using a keyword, why do you need the to calculate a ratio to see what variant you are looking at?
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BeO - thank you! I guess I assumed that keywords are file-specific, but you are absolutely correct different variants can have different keywords and that does seem to largely solve my issue - other than the display issue. I had been using color tags to distinguish variants for internet, print, slideshow, etc. But those classifications involve more than just crop.
I agree with your suggestion a special keyword, single character count limited text string, that could be displayed could be very useful.
This request grew out of a thread from the Facebook group "Capture One Technical Forum" - which I recommend. I will now post there as to your resolution.
Thanks again.
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I use keywords for specific internet sites, for print, etc. too, and for finished projects e.g. a specific photobook name, and define a smart album with a defined filter for the respective keyword as they are variant specific, contrary to static albums in C1.
This request grew out of a thread from the Facebook group "Capture One Technical Forum" - which I recommend. I will now post there as to your resolution.
That's a good idea actually, as I don't have a Zuckerberg account. :-)
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