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Photo Mechanic drag and drop no longer working

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  • Joshua Geelen

    To add to this - it seems that I can't drag and drop any file into C1 and have it show as 'imported'

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  • Ian Wilson
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    Are you working with a catalog or a session (and which was it when you had it working in the past)?

    Ian

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  • Joshua Geelen

    Hi Ian,

     

    Thanks for writing back to me.

     

    Working within a session. I've only ever used sessions.

     

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  • Ian Wilson
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    So explain your process in more detail. The images are imported to a folder on your computer, then you use PM to make selections. Are you trying to drag and drop them from their current folder (where they were when you selected them with PM) to some other folder that is part of your Capture One session, or are you in some way trying to leave them in their existing location and add them to the session? (I have never used PM, so I am not sure how it works.)

    Ian

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  • Joshua Geelen

    Hi Ian,

    The RAWs are in a folder on my computer. You make selections with PM which crates a .xmp file which holds its rating (this also transfer to C1). I drag them from PM into C1 where they are dropped into a session folder - they stay in their existing location.

     

    I used to be able to drop from PM with C1 21 and previous versions as well as drop for their original folder straight into C1 and they would instantly be 'imported' into C1. 

    When I do this now no images show up in C1.

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  • Ian Wilson
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    But sessions don't quite work like that.

    Let's say the raw files are in a folder called RAW FILES. 

    You have a session and it has the standard subfolders, that is CAPTURE, SELECTS, OUTPUT, and TRASH.

    If you want to see the images in one of the session folders - let's say the CAPTURE folder - you could do a number of things.

    1. You could work from within Capture One and drag the images from RAW FILES to CAPTURE (using the Capture One Library tool. 

      The result of this would be that the files would be moved on disc from RAW FILES to CAPTURE. (They would no longer be in their original location.)

    2. You could use Windows File Explorer and move the files from RAW FILES to CAPTURE.  

      The result of this would be that in Capture One you would see the images when you looked in the CAPTURE folder. They would no longer be in the original RAW FILES folder.

    3. You could use Windows File Explorer and copy the files from RAW FILES to CAPTURE. 

      The result of this would be that in Capture One you would see the images when you looked in the CAPTURE folder. But there would still be copies in the original RAW FILES folder too. (This is wasteful of disc space as it involves storing two copies of the files.)

    4. You could leave the images in the RAW FILES folder and simply add that folder as a session favourite in Capture One.

      This depends on whether you really want the files to be in RAW FILES.

    5. You could import the images from the camera into the CAPTURE folder in the first place, but use Photo Mechanic to rate and select them.

      Again this depends on whether you really need the images to be in the RAW FILES folder at all to begin with for other reasons.

    6. You could work from within Photo Mechanic and drag the images from the RAW FILES folder to the CAPTURE folder. 

      I don't know enough about Photo Mechanic to say whether this would move them or copy them.

    Does that make sense? Does any of those look like what you are doing, and if so what happens when you do?

    Ian

     

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  • OddS.

    > Ian Wilson:  6. ...work from within Photo Mechanic and drag...

    If I remember this correctly, Capture One must be running and have the correct session open. Possibly ok with the dummy-session concept, but I never liked that. My workflow is a little different in that I use the PM ingest function to get raw image files from memory card to the final destination. On my system, the default destination folder is <path to mysessions>/<sessionname>/Capture. Here <...> of course refers to some real location on my system. 

    It that destination folder does not exist, PM creates the folder <mysessions>/<sessionname>/Capture and populates it. PM does not create the sibling folders (Selects, Output, Trash), nor does PM create the session database file sessionname.cosessiondb. Capture One will do that: File->New session, Name=sessionname, Location=<path to mysessions>. Capture One adopts the Capture folder if it already exists, creates said sibling folders and the database file. Capture One also creates/updates session house-keeping data in the Capture folder.

    I use several raw image applications and so far the mysessions/sessionname/Capture structure works for all.

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  • Joshua Geelen

    Hi OddS, 

     

    That all makes sense, and it has worked like that for me in the past however this part (It that destination folder does not exist, PM creates the folder <mysessions>/<sessionname>/Capture and populates it) is no longer working. 

    Neither will it work when just dropping files in from a finder window on PC.

     

    Thanks for taking the time to write all of that back Ian Wilson - Appreciate the time taken to explain it. I do have an understanding of how to import the photos in every manner you've described, I just prefer my workflow and dragging and dropping my selects from PM. I do this not just from photo mechanic but from finder window too depending on the situation. Just a bit annoyed it won't seem to work anymore.

     

     

     

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  • BeO
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    The beauty of Joshua's drag and drop is that you can filter (e.g. in PM) for a number of images regardless of location (!) and then drag&drop them into a C1 session window, if more than one image then an album would be created and you could edit them all in C1 session using this album. The adjustments would be stored in each image's .cos file, again, regardless of the image location.

    I only tested this (half a year ago or so) with Windows Explorer as the drag-source (I think I used the search function across multiple subfolders) and it worked (but I didn't take the step to use an external DAM), so if it is no longer working with the latest update then it is either a bug or a deliberate choice from C1 (which would be a shame).

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  • BeO
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    Or maybe it's a change which came with an operating  system update...

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  • BeO
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    Joshua Geelen, all,

    Here you can vote to bring the drag/drop function back:

    https://captureone.ideas.aha.io/ideas/FR-I-1631

     

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