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Select printer / paper ICC profile before exporting to Canon Professional Print and Layout

Paul Williams

So, I've recently bought a Canon Pro 200 and am starting on the slope of print enlightenment. Wish me luck.... 

So I understand that you should use the printer / paper ICC profile (or ideally custom profile) when soft proofing AND sending the image to the printer. Right? 

So, I did this on my first print and the results weren't terrible but there was a considerable difference between my calibrated monitor and Capture One's soft proofing - the printed image was darker and more saturated than the flat soft proof. (I'm deliberately learning so not trying to improve the image / soft proof, but trying to replicate it as far as possible). 

Having done further research, I attempted this again but exported the image from Capture One using my recipe that has the ICC profile attached. I then used Canon Professional Print and Layout (PPL) to print that export, again selecting the ICC profile and appropriate media type and printed again. This time the image was darker still, and extra saturation and contrast. I wonder if I'd 'doubled up' with two ICC profile applications? 

I think I want to use PPL to print as it clearly should work very well with the printer and enable me to get good support from Canon communities should I need it. Should I just print straight from C1? 

If I do go via PPL, should I export from C1 using the ICC profile of the printer / paper or just select my default editing profile (Adobe RGB), and ensure profile applicable only occurs in PPL? 

Here's a comparison of the photos. Ignore the name of my recipe, it does have the correct ICC profile that I printed the the images from. The left print is via PPL and the right straight from C1.

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    Hi Paul,

    You should use the soft proofing in Capture One ONLY to have a look at what you'll obtain on printing, then, switch it off.

    The ICC recipe/colour space should be as large as possible (Prophoto RGB, for instance). The printer/ink/paper profile should be used only within the C1 printer window, otherwise you will apply the printer profile twice instead of one. In addition, you should use a calibrated display, with a not too high brightness. I would say between 80 and 100 cd/m2, depending upon your working environment.

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  • Paul Williams

    Thank you Robert,

    Yes, I'm only using soft proofing to understand what the prints will look like. 

    Right, I think I have been double profiling. I'll repeat the process exporting with ProPhoto (I archiving in that space now). 

    I have a current brightness of 89 so it looks like I'm doing something right ;-)

    Thank you for confirming the colour space issue.

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  • Kevin Arrowsmith

    Hi Paul, I have exactly the same question and came across your post. I wondered what solution you eventually settled with for best colour matching results? In particular, what profile are you embedding in your export to Canon Professional Print and Layout - Adobe RGB or the printer/paper profile?

    thanks

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