Black and white photo (BW) as a token and filter on it
Today the only way to filter black and white photos is to add text to a meta data field manually and filter on that field. I use category and add BW. This will also help with naming of file/folder in export.
I would like to see a black and white photo token being added that automatically gets the value of BW if the photo is converted to black and white and removed if converted back to colour. This would make it possible to filter on it as well as using it for naming of file/folder in export.
Having BW as the value will help keeping filenames as short as possible. Or there could be a setting on what to have BW or Black and White as the value in the field.
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yesterday I had to spend an hour adding tags to some black and white photos in order to display only these on a folder of 4000 photos... A waste of time. I find it strange that this kind of criterion is not part of the filters whereas it has existed for a long time on other software... Is this a complicated function to add? I think it would be interesting to review the C1 search tool which could be greatly improved.
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SFA,
I was mainly thinking about the B&W tool since that what is mostly use. Today I would add "BW" manually to category in the meta data field and filter that way.
I guess you could remove all saturation in the exposure tool or remove all saturation for all colours in the colour editor instead of using the B&W tool. Is that what you refer too? Then it would be a little bit more tricky.
I think the first step would be to allow to filter if the B&W tool is enabled or not.
Secondly, I think you could say if the saturation is -100 in the exposure tab then tag it with BW exposure. And BW colour editor if the saturation is -80. Then the database would know that the image has those values and it could be filtered.
The difficult with this would be if the slider saturation slider aren't -100 (exposure)/-80 (colour editor) maybe -97 / -87. There might be other way to do it as well. If it only was the criteria of saturation -100 (exposure)/-80 (colour editor) then it would probably be doable.
Maybe there should be a category called Treatment under filter and under that you will have.BW Tool
BW exposure (-100 on saturation)
BW colour editor (all colours and -80 on saturation)
Styles (this could be all styles or specific styles, preferable specific styles)
When you create Monochrome conversions what is your workflow?0 -
> Michael S: When you create Monochrome conversions what is your workflow?
I don't know SFA's B&W workflow, but some users prefer to do monochrome outside Capture One. You may end up there as well. Capture One shows the final result, but the only clue for B&W is visual. No Capture One slider or tick-box would indicate what the other application did. I even have Capture One sessions with black and white images (tiffs and jpegs) created outside my computer system, the original files (raw or other) are not, never were and never will be on my disk(s).
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OddS: I understand that all users may not use the internal B&W processing in C1. I only focused on the internal B&W processing in C1 for my request since that how I use it. I think it would be good to add B&W from processed outside of C1. In order to decide if an image is B&W processes outside C1 here are two scenarios:
1. Tag them on import or after by selecting them and and apply the tag with B&W outside or similar, I guess this could be in the meta data field or internally in the C1 database in a new BW token.
2. Have C1 decided automatically on import or after import with AI or other technique that adds the B&W tag. This is probably more complex.
I still think a treatment category for filtering and naming would be good and adding B&W outside
BW Tool (when BW tool is enabled)
BW exposure (when -100 on saturation slider under exposure)
BW colour editor (all colours and -80 on saturation under color editor basic may need now for adv colour editor as well)
BW from outside (manually tagging on or after import or automatically by AI or other technique for B&W images that have been processed outside of C1)
Styles (this could be all styles or specific styles, preferable specific styles. If an image have multiple styles then the image will show up under all choose styles)
What do you think?0 -
> Michael S: What do you think?
It keeps getting more complicated than you thought it would be, right? Frankly, I would rather see the Capture One company spend their resources on all the issues that need fixing.
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