Capture One 23 importing images in the wrong order
I'm trying to import photos from a trip based on day/events and I want to keep them in the order they were taken on the day. So first photo taken would be Hike-0001, second photo taken would be Hike-0002, etc. I'm using the tokens [Job Name]-[4 digit counter]. What is actually happening, is the first photo taken for the day ends up being random like Hike-0037, and Hike-0001 could be the 50th photo I've taken for the day, its just random each time I run the import. In the import images window, they are actually in order, and I am ordering by date. Once the import completes, in the catalog window when I sort by date, it does show the images in the right order but the naming doesn't correspond with the position of the image.
I've tried deleting the tokens and recreating them. I googled this issue and it seems like its popped up a few times over the years. One post suggested that Capture One hasn't been given a field to sort on, but its 100% set to date ascending in the import window.
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I've been finding sometimes recently that this happens to me. As far as I can tell, it happens with files from the Nikon Z6ii (from a CFExpress type B card) but not from the Nikon D500 (from an XQD card). I don't think it was happening before version 23.
If it happens, I use batch rename to get them renamed to the right thing - that seems to work OK.
(My naming convention uses tokens for the image date and a 4 digit counter, so for instance an image taken today might get named as 2023-01-14-0123.NEF.)
Ian
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I don't seem to see the batch rename option, I'm using the free Capture One Express for Sony. It was definitely working in Capture One 22, this is the main thing I used it for.
I might even have a problem with batch renaming, I often shoot in JPEG and RAW and Capture One will name them in pairs, and I have them go to seperate folders using the Format token.
The only way I can manage to keep them in order is to just keep the file name from the camera, but then I don't need a full program to do that.
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Ah, it's possible that Express doesn't have that feature.
Ian
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Capture One has problems with sort order and that could contribute to your problem with batch renaming on import. Not all of these problems affect all versions. The coders seem to fix at least some of these problems in some versions only to have them reappear later.
In several versions of Capture One, including 23, but not 22, importing images into an album that has been sorted manually results in the newly imported images being located in random order.*
Also, in an album that has never been manually resorted, if you select manual sort order without first manually moving at least one thumbnail, the image thumbnails will be put into a random order.
If you export a manually sorted album and import it into another catalog or import a catalog with manually sorted albums into another catalog, the manual sort order reverts to name order.
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*I have reported this to the support team and they do acknowledge it is a bug
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My suspicion is that one of the devs are using an old code base that has the bug, or the dev that has the new code base hasn’t pushed it to the code repository. Also sounds like they aren’t doing automated testing and doing proper regression testing.
For a company who’s product is software, they really need to lift their game with the software development life cycle.
My work around was to use the tokens [Job Name]-[Image Name] so I get something like Hike-A7402345 and it maintains the order from the camera that way, instead of letting Capture One add a counter in the wrong order. This isn’t as neat as having the file name as Hike-0001, Hike-0002, etc but the ordering for me is more important.
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That's a good workaround. I downgraded to version 22 because of this fault - it completely messes up my workflow.
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In any case, it appears that the new 16.0.2 maintenance release addresses this bug.
Ian
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