Captive navigation. Taking speed edit keys to the next level/ maximizing ergonomics.
What problem do you see this solving?
Using the wonderful speed edit keys alongside key remapping means I can fly through even fairly involved wedding edits without the need to trudge between mouse and keyboard. Specifically I have mapped nearly all of my speed edit functions to a game controller to prevent wrist injury.
However, image navigation/ selection requires that the film strip be clicked/highlighted/ actively selected. Thus clicking anywhere else turns navigation keys (arrow keys) into setting modifiers. I would love the option for a captive navigation function. This, in my mind, would be activated similarly to 'select next when' via a hotkey or toggle and, when active, would relegate arrow keys and their select modifiers like shift for multi image exclusively to navigating between images. Honestly, in my 12+ years of editing I have never intentionally used arrow keys to adjust sliders or settings.
This would allow users to move to a new image, use the mouse for whatever setting isn't key definable and then immediately continue editing and navigation without having to remember to re-select or highlight the film strip.
Would also love to see even more settings get speed edit support, but this navigation hiccup would be a HUGE win.
When was the last time you were affected by this lack of functionality, or specific tool?
Generally.
Are you using any workarounds or other solutions to achieve your goals in Capture One?
I am using a controller to subjugate my wrist issues. However this would apply to any input device, including simply keyboard in a more common speed edit keys use case.
Are you happy to be contacted further about this suggestion or request?
Yes
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Hi Firstname! ;)
It should be possible to do this anyway. What shortcut do you have set for Next / Previous currently? It is true that the cursor keys work but there is also this additional short cut. It could be anything which you could then bind to you gaming mouse / controller.Search in the keyboard shortcut editor for "Next"
Try it out and let us know.1 -
Hmm. I guess my years old account doesnt apply to the forum. Might be easier to just change my legal to First Name. Will see.
Jokes aside, that seems to alleviate my navigation issue! Thanks David! Catch you on youtube!0 -
Glad to hear it!! Can you share more about your game controller and how you set it up?
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Actually, it appears I already tried that. So the problem is more localized to me and my setup.
Setting arrow keys to 'next' and 'previous' is rad. However they are now no longer valid for speed edit key modulation. So I would have to have separate key for navigation and edits.
To (exhaustively) answer your question: Currently I use a wireless game controller, remapped with software to contain keyboard keys and macros to button presses. This makes for zero comfort or ergonomic issues at any session length.
I am using a 3rd party controller as it has more buttons, but most major options are supported with the software I use (REWASD). And a basic version of my setup could work on nearly any major controller layout. I also dont think theres anything stopping folks from using this to turn ANY new peripheral (like a second keyboard or numpad) into a Speed Edit power house.
For basic, pressed buttons I have:
Shoulder Buttons are ratings (1 and 2 stars is all I ever use)
Select and Start are Pick WB and Pick Skin Color
One of the face buttons is the shft key for modifying some keys like image multi selection with left or right + shift.
(Joystick directions can be keys so)
The Left Joystick is:- Left and Right are Undo and Redo
- Up is copy and apply adjustments (for when I've multi selected images)
- Down is select primary only.
One of the controllers unique face buttons is set to Select next layer down, which can obviously just cycle layers. Excited to see if I can update anything with the newest C1 layers copy additions.
This specific controller has 4 extra buttons on the back: 2 have been mapped to copy settings and apply settings for on the fly presets. Might need to set the other two for the Smart Adjustments variants.
From here, everything else is for Speed Edit keys, so holding a button obviously turns my D-pad (which is simply keyboard arrows) into speed edit adjustments:
Shoulder buttons when held are now WB and Tint speed edit.
A couple face buttons held for Brightness and Exposure speed edit.The Right Joystick is:
- Left or right hold for Blacks or Whites speed edit
- Up or down for Highlights or Shadows speed edit
- Click in for before/after
Overall needs some refinement and would like to add more local tool buttons like brush, eraser and healing to more quickly select and stay firmly on either the controller or mouse. Apologies for the thesis, it felt like I either write this mini thesis or respond "Me am use controller to go fast!".
At a macro view this allows me to do all culling, Exposure, High Dynamic Range and White Balance edits without leaving the controller. Huge improvement from the midi controller + LR system I had before and one of the biggest reasons I am evangelical about C1.
Hoping the 'captive navigation' isn't a case of 'easy to imagine, painful to program'. But I also understand it is probably an absurdly niche request.0 -
I just posted a Q relaxing to similar . as I get frustrated having to recheck the browser / images to be able to use cursors , each time after doing a small adjustment.
like you too , I've never used the cursors to adjust anything in 10 years !
is there a way to make the cursors stick to the grid navigation ?
this would speed up my workflow so much , cant believe others aren't moaning about this too or devs haven't figured out this needs to be implemented
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