Changing default lens profile
Is there a way to force Capture One not to use its built in profile for a lens?
Specifically I'd like the default to be the Manufacturers profile. I'm finding that the Capture One supplied profile for one of my lenses seems to be messed up (it introduces a bunch of chromatic aberration). On the other hand picking the manufacturers profile seems fine.
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Hi, more information is needed. For example the Fuji cameras have own profiles in the RAW files... Reg. lars
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I think the OP knows that, but for many Fuji lenses there is both a Capture One profile and the built in manufacturers profile available. I think the OP would like to know how to set up Capture One to always default to the built in profile and ignore Fuji’s profile.
Dave
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Hi, Dave, it is not clear that he speeks about Fuji... Reg. lars
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"I'm finding that the Capture One supplied profile for one of my lenses seems to be messed up (it introduces a bunch of chromatic aberration)."
That would be very unusual. Perhaps unheard of.
If you have not already done so you should Submit a Request and discuss this in a Support Case with the Capture One Support team.
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Lars and Dave, I am using a Sony camera, but, as with Fuji ,many lens manufacturers embed a profile in the lens firmware. That is the manufacturers profile and it does work ok. The problem is that Capture One did their own profile, that does not work and the software defaults to that. The lens I am using is the Voigtlander 40 f/1.2 for Sony FE
SFA. Why would a faulty profile be unheard of? Surely you don't believe that the Capture One dev team is incapable of error? In fact this particular problem seems to be long standing. See for example
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4343166
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1512530/162
They report problems with the Capture One profile for this lens, but not with the manufacturers profile. I have filed a bug report, but as these posts are over a year old, and the profile is still bad, I'm not holding my breath.
Capture One still has many bugs that affect the entire software package to fix, I don't expect a good Capture One profile for a particular lens any time soon.
As far as I can tell, I can't set a new default profile, but I can change the lens profile on one image and then copy the adjustment to others.
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Hi, may be I don´t understand your problem, in both english and technic. But it seems clear what to do (and I think you know what I know). In C1 choose the lens correction and have a look to your lenses and choose another one...There is a profile to the Voigtlander too. I don´t know where in the C1-folders one can add another newer one. Hope you find better help. lars
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I'm not familiar with Sony or the lens in question.
In one of the links that you posted I saw a comment that suggested the phenomenon may vary lens example to lens example - in which case creating a certain-to-fix fix could be challenging. Of course the comment was made on an internet forum and as we know some care should be taken when reading such comments.
Not delivering the amount of correction required (for whatever reason) would not be entirely unexpected. Adding additional anomalies as part of what should basically be a subtraction exercise (for a given target colour effect) seems odd unless there are other factors involved.
The only way of eliminating the problem on import (that I can think of) would be to remove the lens profile (or rename it). However as it is embedded in the installation you would need to repeat that action for every C1 update. And it's in a database file so not exactly straightforward.
As you have already identified, Change the profile and then Copy seems to be the best way forward. However the CA calculations may be best applied with individual "Analyze" assessment of each image. If you are already doing that and still not getting satisfactory results then just batch change to "Manufacturer".
Grant
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I've run into a similar problem as OP. I have a Fuji XT2 and at the wide end of my 16-55 mm, the crop that Capture One applies as part of their default lens profile is way too aggressive. I'm losing up to 10% of the total image width/height, which explains why I've been feeling like the framing on all my wide images was not what I had shot. Turns out I do actually know how to frame foregrounds... Capture One was just cropping them out in post.
I know they probably put lots of effort into their profiles - maybe in some technical sense they're trying to save me from IQ lost to distortion at the extreme edges of the image (I have never noticed any). Personally, I much prefer Fuji's manufacturer's profile, since it seems to give me more image to work with 100% of the time.
Like OP, I want to be able to set this as the default behaviour, not some kind of obscure workaround. I shouldn't need to remember to go in an apply, then batch-copy/apply with every new import. I'm sure others may not agree with me but I just don't find playing around with lens corrections to be the most enjoyable or engaging part of photo-editing. With so much flexibility to change defaults elsewhere in the program, I can't fathom why not here.
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I also would like to know how to auto-apply manufacturer profile when importing images. I don't want to manually adjust this every time.
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I am using Capture One 20 Fujifilm (Pro). I am finding that the Capture One profile crops the image enough that I would rather use the Fujifilm embedded profile, and I also can't figure out how to apply or set the default to the manufacture profile.
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Hi, why you want to do this? Is there a difference to the viewer? If used a Fuji lens the named lens profil makes the best quality. With normal lenses there should be no difference to the manufacturer profile. With wide lenses a crop is to correct the image. Try the Generic profile and move the sliders to see it. If you use a not Fuji lens the lens correction may be needed. Try to stop the lens correction auto (at ...)
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C1's profile for Fujinon 18-55mm crops too much in the wide end. I almost always prefer the manufacturer profile.
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@Lars Hennings it’s pretty clear why we want to use the manufacturers profile, and you clearly do understand this. If you don’t have something helpful to contribute, please don’t feel compelled to keep repeating the same “advice”.
I have checked extensively and I see no significant difference in image quality with the C1 profiles over the manufacture’s. There is however, a significant crop with wide lenses. I don’t care if that’s intended as “correcting” the images - that’s a lazy form of correction IMO and you lose a noticeable amount of image compared to what you frame up when shooting. If one buys a wide angle lens, presumably one would want to use its full FOV for wide images.
We’re not asking for the C1 profiles to be taken out - just for the OPTION to set the manufacturer’s as default.
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Ja, you are right, the viewer X-Pro2 with the 18-55/ 18 mm shows a very little more than the image in C1 if the distortion is auto, and without auto the distortion is set to 0, you see more but round lines in the corner. Reg. lars
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Save the lens correction with the mp (3 lines) and set it in the input mask
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In practical terms, that little extra information is negligible, but when reviewing my RAW+Jpeg catalog, the noticeable differences in framing often led me to believe I'm looking at two separate shots when in reality they're the same picture. If possible, I think it's best if C1 would match RAW to the Jpeg "look" in the initial state and let us make our own adjustment from there.
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For anyone using a system (or a lens from a system) that has a Manufacturer profile that they always wish to use on option that is available right now is to save the relevant lens settings as a preset with Manufacturer Profile selection set.
As a Preset the options can be applied any time to a batch selection. Perhaps more importantly it can be applied at the time of import.
You may want to look at your cameras and lenses to make sure that such a generic solution via a preset setting is going to work in all cases. I don't have a mixture of kit to select to set up an easy test but for anyone who does it should not take more than a minute of so to ensure that nothing odd happens if using the preset even if no Manufacture profile is available.
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