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RGB Filter under Black and White

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I would love to see 3 RGB filters to chose from when you select BW 

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0  Red filter

0  Green filter

0  Blue filter

Like in Hasselblads Phocus ;-) 

Go to grayscale then choose filters

Thanks

 

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  • Class A

    Why not use the channel mixer as it is?

    If the issue is speed then you could define presets for the filters you want.

    In general, though, one fixed filter will almost never be optimal for a given image, so why not adjust as needed?

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  • Permanently deleted user
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    Cause it is handy, and it is a filter simulation, quick access to a result.

    There are more ways to do things but when you edit a lot o pictures you want quick acces and quick impressions.

    Like when I have done an edit in black and white on a dark background I want to see it on a white background for the contrast and when it is printed it will be 99% shown on a white BG.

    There was a way in preference to do that but you had to keep switch back and forth. I asked for a quick right mouse click a couple of months and and now you can choose for different BG from white to black with the touch of the right mouse button.

    So much handier .

    In extension to your remark,

    ....why is there a magic wand button (former A button ) , one can also do that by hand, but this is easier way to get some basic adjustments done to start with, same story for a RGB filter ;-)

     

     

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  • SFA

    Have you tried the Preset route?

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  • Permanently deleted user

    Of course there are many ways to a solution and after more than 20 years of image editing with almost all the available editors around, I know how to get things done in the end.

    It just would be handy and quick to get it done by a left mouse click or pull down under the Black & White selection.

    It was a suggestion not a question how to, like my prior question months ago with the BG color change.


    Maybe more people have asked that Q about the BG color and I am probably the first one to suggest a RGB filter under B/W but I know, and talk to B/W Photographers, that use e.g. Phocus and love that feature and when they try C1 that is the first thing they say and miss (besides other features that would also be very beneficial to C1)  but they don't mention it to you guys so I thought let me be the one to point it out.

    But for my non Hassy files , I'll manage to do it by hand in C1  ;-)

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  • SFA

    If you define your own presets you have the potential to do what you want and add further refinement levels.

    No need to click any buttons or even use a click on the slider to eliminate the colour you wish to filter. Just scroll up and down the list of presets.

    But yes, I do understand that long practised habits are difficult to break even if one wishes to do so.

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  • Class A

    @Rob

    "I asked for a quick right mouse click a couple of months and and now you can choose for different BG from white to black with the touch of the right mouse button."

    I made the same request much longer ago, suggesting the same solution approach. :)

     

    "....why is there a magic wand button (former A button )"

    Yeah, I still wonder, why it is there. :)
    The way I approach editing images, this kind of "magic" never helps.

    I don't mind that it exists for others, but I'd never use it.

     

    The problem with easy-access colour filter choices is that those who don't need them cannot simply ignore them. These easy-access buttons will require space and hence make it more difficult to fit in all the panels one needs into limited space.

    I'd be fine if there were a "Fixed B&W Filters" tool that I could ignore, but if easy-access buttons were added to the standard Black & White tool, I wouldn't be able to ignore them.

    I feel your request points to the problem that access to user presets isn't as quick as it should be.
    I often don't even use the brush presets I defined because it takes so long to bring up the menu and then slowly (because there are intentional delays) wade through multiple hierarchy levels. It is sometimes quicker just to replicate the parameter settings manually.

    It would be better if one could opt out of all the built-in presets and get a quick direct access to one's own presets.
    It would be even better if one could assign some named direct access buttons in the tool to one's most often used presets. If that were possible, you could define your colour filters yourself, even giving you a chance to define "blue" with a small component of "red" if that's what you prefer.

    In summary, I believe there is a better solution that would help more users in many more ways as well.

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  • Class A
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    @Rob

    "Of course there are many ways to a solution and after more than 20 years of image editing with almost all the available editors around, I know how to get things done in the end."

    I realise this is off-topic, but I'd be interested in your opinion.
    Given your experience, do you agree that the recent move to viewing each brush (adjustment, clone, heal) as its own tool rather than having a universal brush (one shortcut "B" that worked for every layer type) was a step backwards? The latest release improved on the initial revised brush design a little bit but productivity is still affected compared to the original universal brush approach.

    I'm curious about your thoughts and feel free to post to the post I linked to above, if you don't want to contaminate the discussion of your feature request.

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  • Permanently deleted user
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    I use the magic wand tool just to see what it can do, of course I adjust further by hand but sometimes it gives you a nice direction to go further, but if it's wrong, just do undo and do it yourself.

    To be honest, I use C1 as RAW convertor and just for Global Editing (exposure stuff, HDR and Clarity, Levels and Curves and sometimes bit of vignetting in short and of course change to BW if needed).
    When I shoot landscape I use layers and masks but also not too much, keep it real.

    For Local editing I send my variant to PS and do the Local editing but I don't do too much cause I like to keep it real (I pay more attention to do it right by camera if they are my own shots and when I have control of lighting etc.)

    And I never, ever use sharpening and denoise in C1 or PS as build in  (and the worst of all, LR)

    For Sharpening I use NIK's Sharpener Pro 3 AKA The Output sharpener (Plugin in PS, older version still free available, just as good)

    For Denoise I use DFine2 (Also in the NIK's suite, and I can highly recommend that feature) !!

     

     

     

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  • Class A

    Thanks, Rob!

     

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  • Lily

    Hi Rob,

    Thank you for your post.

    I will forward your suggestion to the Product Management team for consideration.

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