30bit color depth
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I have a 5 year old (!) NVIDIA FX 880M and an EIZO CS240 on the way, both supporting 10 bit per color channel. Now I've read in a C1 8 thread that C1 does not support 30 bit.
Is that really true? Not even in version 9? 😕
What is about LR, DXO, if you happen to know...
Thanks
BeO
I have a 5 year old (!) NVIDIA FX 880M and an EIZO CS240 on the way, both supporting 10 bit per color channel. Now I've read in a C1 8 thread that C1 does not support 30 bit.
Is that really true? Not even in version 9? 😕
What is about LR, DXO, if you happen to know...
Thanks
BeO
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30bit color support is more than that.
OS support has to be there.
Video card support has to be there.
Video card device driver support has to be there and enabled (not done on Nvidia Non-Quadro GPU's is my understanding)
Display Port 1.3 I believe. HDMI doesn't have bandwidth is what I think I read.
Display has to have 30bit support and those that do, fake it during refresh cycles. I have not read where a IPS panel is 30bit color capable directly.
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Ron,
You only somewhat understand what you are talking about. I hate it when people spew half-truths to discourage others from asking for reasonable things. You are correct that both OS, GPU and Monitor support is needed (as well as software), however you are wrong about everything else.
New nVidia GeForce cards DO support 10bit per channel, as do AMD consumer cards.
You only need Display Port 1.2 for 10bit. This is widely available.
There are native 10bit panels, yes they are usually OLED, but those are for sale. Also, I'm pretty sure the HP Z series 5K panel is native 10bit, and even the ones that "fake it" during refresh cycles still benefit from dithering the same way Mac displays did for all those years they used 6bit panels and pretended that they were 8bit for all their clearly discerning graphic arts customers.0 -
Also, Dear P1, please add 30 bit color depth to Capture One. I tell everyone I know to upgrade from Photoshop to C1, as your software is IMO vastly superior (less bells and whistles, more usability). Please don't give people this seemingly simple reason to tell me that C1 is worse than Photoshop for professionals! 0 -
I didn't reply to Ron as he ignored what I've written, both my gfx card and the Eizo support 10 bit. Wasted time for me.
If we export 16bit tiff from C1 and then can use PS with 10bit, this sounds professional to me. C1 has the better raw converter imo.
However, as I do my edits 98% in C1 and no PS edits afterwards, I'd appreciate if C1 could do 10bit from preview to monitor.
cheers0 -
What do you think 10bit colour support on your screen will introduce into Capture One? 0 -
Smooth transitions and reduced posterization especially after more-than-subtle post processing for outputs in 16bit files. Do I have wrong expectations?
cheers0 -
well, your eyes can't see past 6 or so million colours 0 -
I've read a lot last year, and forgot most of it. However my conclusion was (and I stored this in my memory 😊 that 10bit per channel is, under some circumstances, desirable.
There is a lot of information in the web, e.g., not sure these were the compelling articles though.
I have a new computer on its way with a GeForce which can't do 10bit, only my old notebook (with Quadro card) can. Not an issue as C1 can't do 10bit either, currently, so the choice for the Geforce was easy.0 -
Yeah, I don't buy any of that about the monitors, and Apple had 6bit TN displays for the longest time, fobbing them off on their users..
16bit colour matters when capturing images because when you pull images around you can "break" them easily, which is why you can do more with a RAW vs JPEG before it breaks.
If you're finding posterization in your photos, then something is wrong the photo end, not your display (unless you're using a cheap TN monitor).
Also consider that when you print, you're using a limited colour gamut.0
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