save back to capture 1 from affinity photo
On the webinar "Improving your Landscape Edits" the statement was made how to save back to capture 1 from affinity photo. The method explained does not work. What was said is that in capture 1 you select edit with affinity photo and let it create a TIFF file. Capture 1 goes to affinity but you cannot save back to capture 1. When you try to save back to capture 1 affinity says it saved the TIF file . When you go back to capture 1 there is a marker with an error message for the saved TIFF file but the file is actually not in capture 1 . Please identify the way you save files back from Affinity to capture 1. If you try to save the way indicated in the webinar, you have to actually delete the TIFF with the error marker file from disk in capture 1, delete the TIF file capture 1 created and export from Affinity to the file to the desired folder then import that file into capture 1. THis is very very very time consuming . thanks
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So here is something I have just done. I had an image in C1 that I wanted to remove an object from (not suitable for just using the clone or heal layers facility in C1).
(1) Right click the thumbnail and choose Edit with ... Affinity Photo.
(2) In the dialog box that comes up, choose TIFF as the format etc, then click the Edit Variants button.
(3) This causes Affinity to start up and to open the TIFF file.
(At this point, if I look in C1, I see my TIFF file alongside the raw file, and looking just like it.)
(4) In Affinity, do my work of removing the offending object (using the Inpainting brush).
(5) In Affinity, go to File>Save (or hit Cmd-S). Affinity saves over the TIFF file with the edited version (minus the removed object).
(6) Back in Capture One, I see that the TIFF file has changed: it no longer looks like the raw file, because the removed object has gone.
Now, I am working in a session and therefore if I do things like that my folder with the raw file and the TIFF file updates itself. If I were in a catalog, I think that I would need to synchronise the folder for the changed files to be visible.
Ian0 -
[quote="Ian3" wrote:
Now, I am working in a session and therefore if I do things like that my folder with the raw file and the TIFF file updates itself. If I were in a catalog, I think that I would need to synchronise the folder for the changed files to be visible.
Ian
I watched the recorded Webinar earlier today (second webinar of the day was the one published published) and David Grover did mention the possible need for synchronisation of the folder after saving the TIFF (or whatever format) file from the external source.
I think this would be especially the case if the file came back with a different file name (something I would think of as very desirable but not necessarily good for storage efficiency). In effect the Synchronise on the folder is the equivalent of Import and tells the database that the file exists. In terms of replacing an existing file the case may not be quite so clear but it probably is influenced by whatever the creating program (i.e. Affinity) is doing in terms of file locking or some other form of file verification and changes assessment and synchronisation may deal with that.
As, like Ian3, I don't use catalogues for processing the synchronise option is nit something I am especially familiar with.
There are some other possible sources of interruption but as I am also on Windows rather than Mac there may be detailed differences for what happens and it's probably best to leave further comments to a Mac user.
Grant0 -
It works well with PSD files, and no synchronization is needed. Just make sure that in Affinity you go to Preferences->General and check "Enable Save over imported PSD files". I seem to recall it working with TIFF also once this preference is set, but since it works with PSD I don't use TIFF (nor sessions, which may be different).
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[quote="SFA" wrote:
...I am also on Windows rather than Mac there may be detailed differences for what happens and it's probably best to leave further comments to a Mac user.
I use Windows as well, with C1 sessions, Affinity Photo and quite a few other image applications.
For a TIFF round trip from C1 to Affinity Photo and back, my C1 produces a TIFF file, say, "image.tif". Unless I overlooked something, my Affinity Photo (Windows!) does not offer File->Save nor File->Save As for any other file type than the native aphoto. I can use Save and have "image.aphoto" or I can use Save As to have "otherfilename.aphoto".
Affinity Photo's File->Export allows me to output the image to other file formats, JPEG, TIFF and PSD included. If I select export to TIFF, Affinity suggests filename "image.tiff" (note the .tiff in contrast to C1's .tif), and allows me to override it by typing a different filename. C1 picks up the .tiff just fine, I get image.nef, image.tif and image.tiff in the C1 browser.
I regularly send image files straight to the session's Capture folder (or rather straight to a Capture/subfolder). C1 has always kept the promise of watching my session's Capture folder and (sub)folders I have made a session favorite, so far no refresh needed to automatically have new files appear in the browser.
So yes, this is probably one of those threads we Windows users should just watch 😎0 -
On Mac, I find that I can Save the TIFF and Affinity will over-write the TIFF first created for the round trip, and C1 updates its preview. But when I close Affinity, it still reminds me that my file has not been saved. If I choose to save it from the warning dialog box, then it saves it as a .afphoto file. Whether I do that or not depends on whether I think I may want to go back and play some more with the edits I made to the image in Affinity. As the .afphoto file can get quite large, I don't always save it.
Ian0 -
[quote="NNN636936379363185216" wrote:
Capture 1 goes to affinity but you cannot save back to capture 1.
What kind of message/dialog tells you Affinity can not save back to C1 and what is the message text? As you probably know by now, I use Windows, but a Mac user may know what causes the problem if you post a copy of that message text.[quote="NNN636936379363185216" wrote:
When you try to save back to capture 1 affinity says it saved the TIF file .
Hmm, conflicting messages from Affinity then? Did you use Finder to check which one of the two messages is the correct one?[quote="NNN636936379363185216" wrote:
When you go back to capture 1 there is a marker with an error message for the saved TIFF file but the file is actually not in capture 1.
Hmm, this again indicates that there actually is a TIFF there. A bit confusing.
Is C1 TIFF Editing enabled? I believe it is off by default. Could you just verify C1 Preferences->Image->Enable TIFF Editing again and let Mac forum users know that TIFF Editing is indeed enabled?0 -
For some reason I’ve never had any problems doing this... A couple of checkpoints:
As macbates said make sure “Enable save over imported psd files†in the affinity general preferences is checked.
Use “edit with†to open your file in Affinity Photo. I usually use 16 bit Tiff uncompressed, but PSD works as well. You should see a tiff file created in your browser and Affinity will open it.
Do your edits. Use “save†in Affinity, not Save as. It asks if you want to keep the layers or flatten them. I keep them.
When you close Affinity you may get a “save as†dialog. I tell it to discard changes since it just duplicates the tiff file, but you could save it outside the C1 catalog if you like.
I’ve never had to regenerate the preview to see the changes.
To modify the Affinity layers use “open with†on the tiff in the browser. Edit with will create another tiff and flatten the earlier layers.0 -
I use catalogs not sessions and I cannot get it to work in catalogs. In catalog mode when I save the affinity generated TIFF file in affinity, Affinity says the file is saved. When I go back to capture 1 there is an error message on the file that capture 1 originally created when I gave the instruction "edit with Affinity Photo". I have to delete that file originally created by capture 1 from the disk and then go back to affinity to "export" the file to the folder and collection I want. Then I have to go back to capture 1 and import that file. That is way too much work. 0 -
Phil Ryan:
I do everything you suggest already and when I save back to capture 1 it gives an error message when affinity has saved back the modified TIFF file. The only difference i can see is that capture 1 original saved a TIFF file with the extension TIF but capture 1 saves the image as a TIFF file so affinity uses two Fs... Still does not work for me.0 -
Does it work if you save it as PSD? 0 -
Make sure you select edit in not open in. In Affinity make sure you flatten (this is photoshop wording, affinity uses different term but it does same thing) the image then save, there should be no message at all. In CO you may find the tiff or psd thumbnail has not changed, select it right click and select regenerate preview. Works for me in Windows using CO in catalogue mode.
Dave0 -
I do flatten the image before saving in affinity but it still does not import into Capture 1 without error message. I still have to export from affinity and then import into capture 1 when using catalogs. 0 -
i solved the issue TO my surprise CaPTURE 1 DOES NOT recognise TIFF files when they are in LAB color mode! I do my work in LAB color space so if you use capture 1 note that it will not save back files in the LAB color space, you have to export them and reimport them then delete the Capture 1 created TIFF file. This is not good at all and needs to be fixed in Capture 1. Photoshop and Affinity work quite well in LAB AND THIS IS A REAL SHROTCOMING in Capture 1 . please fix it . 0 -
[quote="NNN636936379363185216" wrote:
i solved the issue TO my surprise CaPTURE 1 DOES NOT recognise TIFF files when they are in LAB color mode! I do my work in LAB color space so if you use capture 1 note that it will not save back files in the LAB color space, you have to export them and reimport them then delete the Capture 1 created TIFF file. This is not good at all and needs to be fixed in Capture 1. Photoshop and Affinity work quite well in LAB AND THIS IS A REAL SHROTCOMING in Capture 1 . please fix it .
Don't ask us to fix it - we are your fellow users, not Phase One developers. If you'd like to see something done about it, make a request to Phase One in a support case.
Ian0
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