Colors of tiff file appear lighter in PS than in Capture One
When dng files are processed in Capture One to generate either tiff or jpeg file, the colors when opening these files in PhotoShop Element 4 on Mac OS 10.4 appear lighter then the same files viewed in Capture One. It makes it difficult to imagine what is the best color for printing, since I use Photoshop Element 4 for printing the processed files.
Is there any reasons for that ? Or is it better using camera raw ?
Thank you for your help.
Is there any reasons for that ? Or is it better using camera raw ?
Thank you for your help.
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Check your color management settings. Or simpler: select sRGB as your output profile and compare colors again. 0 -
In both case, the profile is Adobe RVB 1998, and the colours are still lighter in Photoshop Element 4 than in Capture One. Any other idea ? 0 -
Yes, try sRGB, not AdobeRGB because that is your problem! (at least that is what I think) 0 -
I have just tried sRVB, and I get the same result. It is as if the colors were lore saturated in Capture One. I can not see real difference when exporting from Capture One with profile sRVB or Adobe RVB 1998. 0 -
A pity that the sRGB profile did not bring a quick solution. The problem is typical for a wide gamut image (an image with a wider gamut work space like AdobeRGB) viewed as and sRGB file so I still suspect a color management issue. Problem is I am not sure how Photoshop Elements 4 handles color management. Maybe you can provide some more details like:
Camera that creates the DNG file (or other source than camera)
Version of Capture One 4 you use
Input profile a.k.a. camera profile used in CO4
Question: have you tried to convert the DNG with PS Elements 4? Result?
Other question: what if you open the tiff/jpeg in CO4 and compare it to the original
Maybe this can shed some light on the issue.
And I don't want to be picky about a typo, but you seem to be consequent in talking RVB were I would expect RGB (Red-Green-Blue) like in sRGB and AdobeRGB. Curious. New to me.0 -
Olivier is probably French.
Red-Green-Blue probably equals Rouge-Vert-Bleu.
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Before I sound like a loon, one of my customers has also come across the same issue so I now know I'm not going mad.
I have experienced a similar issue (cause of which unknown) where Adobe PS CS3 interprets my monitor profile differently to everything else, either because it is corrupt or what I dont know (looks ok in Colorsync).
(You can see it is the monitor profile by bringing up system prefs and switching profiles with CS and 4.5.2 in the BG)
The result is the image looks lighter in CS, most noticeable in blacks, like a poor CMYK conversion.
The only remedy I have found to work is to discard the monitor profile and re-calibrate the screen. It's happenend a few times: I've been unable to determine why or how to stop it happening again. ☹️0 -
[quote="Olivier" wrote:
When dng files are processed in Capture One to generate either tiff or jpeg file, the colors when opening these files in PhotoShop Element 4 on Mac OS 10.4 appear lighter then the same files viewed in Capture One.
from a windows user:
I suspect that the DNG workflow is far from reliable as yet. I came across a similar issue when I was experimenting with DNG files, and found that when I created A DNG-file Ãn CO4 (from a raw file), the preview upon opening this DNG file in Photoshop cs4, was rendered considerably lighter and more colorful than when the same DNG-file was opened in CO4 (here the preview exactly matched the preview from the original raw file). Moreover, this preview was also considerably lighter and more colorful than the preview when opening the original raw file itself in Photoshop camera raw. As a DNG file is not assigned a color profile by the user when creating it, the preview rendering shóuld be similar in different applications on the same computer, regardless of colormanagement.
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[quote="tantareanu" wrote:
Olivier is probably French.
Red-Green-Blue probably equals Rouge-Vert-Bleu.
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Thanks for the hint; won't have figured that out myself. 🤭0 -
[quote="Paul_E" wrote:
A pity that the sRGB profile did not bring a quick solution. The problem is typical for a wide gamut image (an image with a wider gamut work space like AdobeRGB) viewed as and sRGB file so I still suspect a color management issue. Problem is I am not sure how Photoshop Elements 4 handles color management. Maybe you can provide some more details like:
Camera that creates the DNG file (or other source than camera)
Version of Capture One 4 you use
Input profile a.k.a. camera profile used in CO4
Question: have you tried to convert the DNG with PS Elements 4? Result?
Other question: what if you open the tiff/jpeg in CO4 and compare it to the original
Maybe this can shed some light on the issue.
And I don't want to be picky about a typo, but you seem to be consequent in talking RVB were I would expect RGB (Red-Green-Blue) like in sRGB and AdobeRGB. Curious. New to me.
Camera : Leica M8
Profile : Leica M8 Generic
Version of Capture One 4 : 4.1.1.18377.18171
If I convert the dng directl in PSE via CameraRaw, I get colors slightly different, not as light as when I open the tiff, but lighter than a dng in Capture One. I think it is normal that the dng have different appearance in different products ( CameraRaw, Aperture, Capture One) but is is not for tiff or jpg.
When I open the tiff in camera raw, it is more saturated than the tiff in PSE.
Apparently some have met the same pb.
Regarding teh RVB, I am sorry, that's french, I forgot I was writing in english.0 -
Hello
Please note you should never use sRGB as its only web colours and about 35% of the visible spectrum.
Derek0 -
I have the exact same problem when I use PRO 4, but I get lighter and no sharpening and less saturated.....I think its a problem/bug with the new PRO 4, When I use 3.7 its works great.. 0 -
Same problem here.
Previews in C1Pro 4.6 seem less saturated than the output which is viewed in CS4.
I too think this behavior is not by design.
I've opened a support case.
T.0 -
Why do you guys use .dng´s anyway when you have camera raw files???
I mean - you have a file - convert that file - and convert again.. of course there will be some loss. Ok.. different colors are a bit weird and it should not be - but hey. Just go for the original file.
C14pro from raws is finally at least a lot better than c13pro.. The pictures where never the same in Photoshop. At least a third stop darker and so on.
Great that at least that is fixed in C14..
Wished they would not have made the whole other workflow crappy as hell.0 -
I noticed in the advanced settings of photoshop's color settings there is a monitor saturation setting. When I changed this I was able to get both to match visually. There was a difference between all versions of software. It took a couple hours with a photog friend as we talked thru several scenarios. Man this software stuff gets crazy sometimes! 0 -
This is almost certainly a monitor profile issue. C1Pro v4 has it's issues, but colour accuracy and colour management are not among them.
I'd suggest you: re-calibrate and profile your monitor, with a hardware device; ensure that the new profile is selected in System Prefs>Displays>Color; and quit/restart C1Pro, Photoshop and Bridge (or restart the whole machine to brute force clear any caches and be sure).
I just did so, and now C1Pro, Bridge and Photoshop all appear identical.0
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