Fujifilm X-Pro2 RAW support
I have been using the new camera for several days and right now have to use LR to support RAW processing. I'm obviously a C1 user, so any idea on when this camera will be supported? Thank you.
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The best we can do is to submit a support case to let Phase One know that there are user waiting for this particular camera to be supported.
This is also the suggestion given by Phase One Crew on this Forum on similar cases.0 -
I'm really disappointed about the still missing support in version 9.1. Can we hope for it in the near future? 0 -
I'm disappointed too ☹️ 0 -
Phase One support for new cameras in Capture One typically comes between a few weeks and a few months after a camera is released.
Adobe rushes out support and their color profiles and algorithm tweaks are often lackluster. Phase One takes it time and does it right, which is probably why you are a C1 user in the first place. If you want them to rush out support... be careful what you wish for.0 -
9.1 is supporting fairly new cameras...and Adobe just recently started offering fast support for new equipment. I remember waiting for over 3 months for them to support one of my older Nikon bodies.
Given the files I do get with camera RAW conversion, I'm ok for now but I really miss the processing available to me via C1. It so easy to get spoiled. 😄0 -
If you really want RAW support for the XPro2 then the best way is to lodge a Support Case rather than complaining.
The Dev Team get their work prioritised by the number of support cases and requests for enhancements received via the Support Case process.
I have lodged a Support Case but if I am the only one then it shows that it is not wanted by many people!0 -
Ladies and gents,
I know a lot of you are disappointed, so apologies. The cameras arrived too late for inclusion for 9.1 - One of those times when the stars do not align for release deadlines unfortunately.
Be assured we have heard you loud and clear and will have support in the next release. However I can not comment on timelines.
Hang in there! It's coming.0 -
Thank you. I appreciate knowing that as Fuji x-Pro2 owner, I will soon be able to convert my RAW files in Capture One. Knowing I am not forgotten makes me happy again! 0 -
As a Fujifilm ambassador and using X-Pro2 since October I will be very happy if we can convert raw files in your next 9.2 very ASAP...Many thanks ! 0 -
[quote="Bruno71" wrote:
As a Fujifilm ambassador and using X-Pro2 since October I will be very happy if we can convert raw files in your next 9.2 very ASAP...Many thanks !
Bruno,
Would Fuji be able to help you out by ensuring that the Capture One team are provided with priority access to a production camera as soon as possible after it is announced so that they can do what they need to do to create profiles and check that all works well?
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[quote="Digital Transitions, Doug" wrote:
Adobe rushes out support and their color profiles and algorithm tweaks are often lackluster. Phase One takes it time and does it right, which is probably why you are a C1 user in the first place. If you want them to rush out support... be careful what you wish for.
Actually Adobe and Fuji have a close relationship which is why LR gets support so quickly. They also have the Fuji film simulations as "Camera Calibrations" that are very good. I use both LR and CO and can honestly say that LR is probably better for Fuji raw files since version 6.1 when Adobe overhauled the X-Trans conversion.0 -
[quote="sizzlingbadger" wrote:
[quote="Digital Transitions, Doug" wrote:
Adobe rushes out support and their color profiles and algorithm tweaks are often lackluster. Phase One takes it time and does it right, which is probably why you are a C1 user in the first place. If you want them to rush out support... be careful what you wish for.
Actually Adobe and Fuji have a close relationship which is why LR gets support so quickly. They also have the Fuji film simulations as "Camera Calibrations" that are very good. I use both LR and CO and can honestly say that LR is probably better for Fuji raw files since version 6.1 when Adobe overhauled the X-Trans conversion.
Sounds like an old style "arms race" out there!
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[quote="Digital Transitions, Doug" wrote:
Adobe rushes out support and their color profiles and algorithm tweaks are often lackluster.
Oh, please - that's self-evident tripe.Phase One takes it time and does it right
Far more threads - especially in proportion to the total number of posts on the forum - about borked colour profiles on here than on the Lightroom forum.
Some of us actually use Capture One and Lr - I do (although not for much longer In Capture One's case), and I can say with confidence that you're making things up.
I'm currently rationalising my Raw converter choices - I use Capture One, DxO Optics Pro, Lr and Photo Ninja - and any day now I'll be down to just Photo Ninja and Lr: I'm keeping Lr because its colours are better than Capture One's.0 -
[quote="Keith Reeder" wrote:
I'm keeping Lr because its colours are better than Capture One's.
At the risk deviating from the topic of this conversation I will dare to argue this is a matter of personal taste. In my case, I use C1 because it gives better colours than Lr and allows me to perform more adjustments on a RAW file than Lr. And I keep Lr, not for long, because it is a better DAM than C1.0 -
[quote="Keith Reeder" wrote:
[quote="Digital Transitions, Doug" wrote:
Adobe rushes out support and their color profiles and algorithm tweaks are often lackluster.
Oh, please - that's self-evident tripe.Phase One takes it time and does it right
Far more threads - especially in proportion to the total number of posts on the forum - about borked colour profiles on here than on the Lightroom forum.
Some of us actually use Capture One and Lr - I do (although not for much longer In Capture One's case), and I can say with confidence that you're making things up.
I'm currently rationalising my Raw converter choices - I use Capture One, DxO Optics Pro, Lr and Photo Ninja - and any day now I'll be down to just Photo Ninja and Lr: I'm keeping Lr because its colours are better than Capture One's.
I used Aperture, and then Lightroom, for years. A couple of observations:- 1) Raw files from my Leica M, particularly in the skin tones, look better than they did in Lightroom.
2) Friends of mine who own Fuji X100-series cameras never say good things about Lightroom's x-trans support.
3) The Lightroom camera profiles for my Nikon Df, with the exception of Adobe Standard, were borked. Color gradations were uneven, noticeable in out-of-focus areas. I reported the problem to Adobe, provided raw samples, and it took them a full year to fix it. The fix was included in a paid upgrade, not provided for free in an incremental update.0 -
[quote="Keith Reeder" wrote:
[quote="Digital Transitions, Doug" wrote:
Adobe rushes out support and their color profiles and algorithm tweaks are often lackluster.
Oh, please - that's self-evident tripe.Phase One takes it time and does it right
Far more threads - especially in proportion to the total number of posts on the forum - about borked colour profiles on here than on the Lightroom forum.
Some of us actually use Capture One and Lr - I do (although not for much longer In Capture One's case), and I can say with confidence that you're making things up.
I'm currently rationalising my Raw converter choices - I use Capture One, DxO Optics Pro, Lr and Photo Ninja - and any day now I'll be down to just Photo Ninja and Lr: I'm keeping Lr because its colours are better than Capture One's.
Keith,
I think I appreciate what you are communicating and why you wish to communicate it but ...
Last year some time there was a flurry of "media" articles about how people probably see quite differently from each other, especially in terms of colour sensitivity.
It would not surprise me at all if that is indeed the case.
In which case it follows that I would also assume that people setting up "best of breed" systems may have, unknown to them, certain problem colour biases. They may be marginal - but there will always be those who like what they establish, those who don't - and a mass of people between who don't perceive any great difference even if they see some difference.
In the final analysis it's a personal choice and we are all, for the time being, allowed to make that choice.
That is probably a good thing.
It also suggests that there is NO perfect rendition of an image in colour since people see colour differently. In most cases only slightly differently but differently nevertheless. Perhaps the popularity of monochrome in the "colour" world has been explained. 😉
Personally I find the idea of working with multiple RAW converters less and less appealing as time passes. The learning curve to get the most out of each one and to be sure that one has not missed anything with the others is, in my opinion, not worth the effort. It may even be counter productive. I am aware that there may well be different opinions about that.
But either way I have not read ANY evidence to suggest that any of the photo editing software vendors has a product that gets everything right for all users and does so consistently.
Were that to happen it would be truly remarkable in the annals of history.
Grant0
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