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Media Pro SE

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Media Pro 2.0 is coming !!! 😄

Media Pro SE (Second Edition)
Media Pro SE is a service pack release providing additional OS support and bug fixes over
Media Pro 1.5. It is a payable update from Media Pro 1.5 and prior.
Improvements
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Supports rendering of Capture One adjustments up to 9.1
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Support for OSX 10.11
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Support for Windows 10 (64bit)
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Standard key increased +1 to 3 activations
Bug fixes for Windows
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Fixed sporadic problem with auxiliary file handling
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Fix for potential crash while importing MS Office documents
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Recent Catalogs menu now sorted by modification date
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Fixed ability to reliably drag and drop from Capture One to rebuild MP items
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Improved licensing UI to prevent country-based activation problems.
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“Date Finder†section of Organize pane now displays localized day/month names
properly
Bug fixes for Mac
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Fixed code signing for newer OS X releases.
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Auto Update folders show green on newer OS X releases.
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Fixed script “Copy from items with Same Nameâ€
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“Date Finder†section of Organize pane now displays localized day/month names
properly
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  • Willy Knuever
    Hello Jimmy,

    What are you talking about?

    E-mail is sRGB and these colours are oversaturated on a RGB monitor.

    Kind regards,

    Willy
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  • paintbox
    [quote="NN383" wrote:
    Hello Jimmy,

    What are you talking about?

    E-mail is sRGB and these colours are oversaturated on a RGB monitor.

    Kind regards,

    Willy


    I understand that sRGB is oversaturated, but this is much more than that. If I export directly from C1 to Mail applying
    the sRGB profile it still looks nothing like Media Pro's version.

    Media Pro simply doesn't honor the monitor profile.
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  • paintbox
    And here's proof, believe me it looks worse in person.

    http://www.jimmyduptain.com/img/s5/v116/p1891781248-3.jpg
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  • Willy Knuever
    Hoi Jimmy,

    You are right. I see the difference, strange. But I have no idea how to clear it. Perhaps your colourmanagement?

    In CO 9 my input ICC profile is: Canon EOS-5D MkIII Generic. My output ICC profile: Adobe RGB (1998). My monitor profile is: Emulate Adobe RGB (1998)

    On my monitor I see really no difference between output Co 9, DxO 11 or DPP 4.3 and viewer Media Pro 1.5/ SE, Canon ZoomBrowser or ImageBrowser. Only the specific RAWconverter differences.

    Kind regards,
    Willy
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  • paintbox
    [quote="NN383" wrote:
    Hoi Jimmy,

    You are right. I see the difference, strange. But I have no idea how to clear it. Perhaps your colourmanagement?

    In CO 9 my input ICC profile is: Canon EOS-5D MkIII Generic. My output ICC profile: Adobe RGB (1998). My monitor profile is: Emulate Adobe RGB (1998)

    On my monitor I see really no difference between output Co 9, DxO 11 or DPP 4.3 and viewer Media Pro 1.5/ SE, Canon ZoomBrowser or ImageBrowser. Only the specific RAWconverter differences.

    Kind regards,
    Willy


    Thanks Willy, but:

    If my monitor profile were "Emulate Adobe RGB" then I would have no real color management.
    I did try something similar, and it did make everything uniform, however it renders my printing profiles useless. I print from home so a properly calibrated monitor is a must. Media Pro is the only software I own that doesn't honor said calibration.
    Adobe Bridge,
    Photoshop,
    Nikon Capture NX2
    Mirage Print,
    Capture One,
    Affinity Photo,
    Lightroom,
    Photo Mechanic,
    Photo Supreme (Another DAM), all of these look right, while MP doesn't. Edit: Photo supreme has the same issues. Just tried it.

    For fun, I downloaded a copy of Expressions Media. It has the same issue, so this isn't anything new. And I'm guessing that Phase One knows this is an issue and has decided to ignore it or else they would have already chimed in.
    This maybe even a Mac only issue, or maybe people with a color managed environment are in the minority.
    I do appreciate you trying to help me though. If only the folks at Phase One would help a brother out. 😄
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  • Willy Knuever
    Hello Jimmy,

    I cannot upload a screenshot from Media Pro SE, but:

    "Phase One Media Pro
    Cannot change color management for the selected media item.
    Only RGB, CMYK and Grayscale Photoshop, TIFF or JPEG images are supported for colormanagement    ."

    But it doesn't work. It worked never.

    Kind regards,
    Willy
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  • paintbox
    [quote="NN383" wrote:
    Hello Jimmy,

    I cannot upload a screenshot from Media Pro SE, but:

    "Phase One Media Pro
    Cannot change color management for the selected media item.
    Only RGB, CMYK and Grayscale Photoshop, TIFF or JPEG images are supported for colormanagement    ."

    But it doesn't work. It worked never.

    Kind regards,
    Willy


    Yeah, I've come across that as well.
    This message was also in Expression Media.
    I only held on to Media Pro hoping for an update that would make it more useful, but that doesn't look promising.
    I guess I'll just hope that C1's catalog performance continues on its present course of improving. Honestly, thats the only reason I ever looked elsewhere.
    That and Camera Bits has been promising a catalog for quite some time. I'm here to tell you that if its anything like Photo Mechanic (a Camera Bits software) it will be excellent.
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  • Robert Edwards
    http://i.imgur.com/GesIC8j.png

    This usually pops up with file formats that don't have color profiles, like camera raw files. Media Pro can assign and strip color profiles to TIFF, JPEG, etc, files.
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  • Willy Knuever
    Hoi Roberte,

    In my case (and others) I cannot change the colorprofile TIFF or JPEG since Microsoft Expression Media 2 Windows (2010). And also not in Media Pro 2 SE. That is just the problem.

    I know that RAW-files have no definitive colorprofile.

    Kind regards,
    Willy
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  • Paul Szilard
    Please advise on what is the best DAM for Mac.

    I have been using LR since the beginning (now v6.6) and it is breaking up. I also have MP 1.5 and see nothing but bad news here on the forum, and now PO wants me to BUY a bug fix version, which apparently still sucks!

    I have a licensed Aperture, but that is abandoned by Apple.

    So is there a good DAM out there???
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  • Franz J Wenzel
    [quote="NNN634660255790057002" wrote:
    Please advise on what is the best DAM for Mac.

    I have been using LR since the beginning (now v6.6) and it is breaking up. I also have MP 1.5 and see nothing but bad news here on the forum, and now PO wants me to BUY a bug fix version, which apparently still sucks!

    I have a licensed Aperture, but that is abandoned by Apple.

    So is there a good DAM out there???


    I feel like sitting in the same boat with you! ☹️

    Short answer - no - at least not an affordable one (of course there are commercial apps in the 10k+ range that probably would do the job, but I haven't found any 'fitting' MY needs as of yet)

    Using PM5 to ingest and create backup copy, CO9 in session mode to edit, Affinity Photo to complement CO9, and MP1.5 to 'catalog' - but that cataloging leaves a lot to be desired...

    I looked into Photo Supreme quite extensively but could not get it to work with my photo collection - now sitting on the fence looking at the developments (if any) from Camera Bits, and Affinity (which also announced a DAM), and of course the catalog saga from Phase One.
    Meanwhile its 'make do' and rely on memory to find any particular photo....
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  • Peter Brockhausen
    I use CO9 in session mode (sometimes, e.g. after holidays when I come back with many pictures, I use Perfect Browse from On1 for a pre-selection).
    And afterwards, as "DAM" I use Apple Photos for all developed pictures (jpg or tiff). Photos fullfils my urgent needs, and it is very fast. WHen I have to reedit some picture, I go back to the respective session and start over again (editing in CO9, exporting, importing into Photos).

    I tried the latest version of Media Pro (for several weeks). But for my needs, it is not worth the money and effort to switch to it. Sorry Phase one.

    But I would be very happy, if the database of CO9 had the features of Media Pro and the performance of Apple Photos (which on my hardware is much faster than lightroom too)... I would even pay more for a license!

    Until then, I will be a happy session mode user of CO9.

    --peter
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  • Robert Edwards
    Lightroom is the closest thing to a mature, single user, DAM tool (sorry Phase One). Media Pro has slipped behind the competition and not enough of it has been integrated into Capture One to compete with LR. Aperture (RIP) was very good.

    I'd love Media Pro to have continued the development cycle of iView but those days have gone. The market moved on 10 years ago to DAM+Processing with Aperture, Lightroom and Capture One. Like it or not, single user programs such as Media Pro, Photo Supreme, etc, struggle to remain relevant and are now niche products.
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  • Franz J Wenzel
    [quote="Peter.Brockhausen" wrote:
    I use CO9 in session mode (sometimes, e.g. after holidays when I come back with many pictures, I use Perfect Browse from On1 for a pre-selection).
    And afterwards, as "DAM" I use Apple Photos for all developed pictures (jpg or tiff). Photos fullfils my urgent needs, and it is very fast. WHen I have to reedit some picture, I go back to the respective session and start over again (editing in CO9, exporting, importing into Photos).

    I tried the latest version of Media Pro (for several weeks). But for my needs, it is not worth the money and effort to switch to it. Sorry Phase one.

    But I would be very happy, if the database of CO9 had the features of Media Pro and the performance of Apple Photos (which on my hardware is much faster than lightroom too)... I would even pay more for a license!

    Until then, I will be a happy session mode user of CO9.

    --peter



    Hello Peter,
    quick question about Photos, can you browse 'offline' images even when the storage media(eg external hard drive) is not connected to the system? I tried this with Picasa but it only works with 'online' images. Haven't had time to try with photos...


    [quote="roberte" wrote:
    Lightroom is the closest thing to a mature, single user, DAM tool (sorry Phase One). Media Pro has slipped behind the competition and not enough of it has been integrated into Capture One to compete with LR. Aperture (RIP) was very good.

    I'd love Media Pro to have continued the development cycle of iView but those days have gone. The market moved on 10 years ago to DAM+Processing with Aperture, Lightroom and Capture One. Like it or not, single user programs such as Media Pro, Photo Supreme, etc, struggle to remain relevant and are now niche products.


    Agreed,

    I think one of the main problems with DAM's these days is the handling of metadata by the different companies. There seems to be no common ground even though a multitude of 'standards' are in place. It starts with things like incompatible color labels, star ratings, and tagging between software applications, over 'proprietary' entries of camera manufactures, on down the the wonderful, most confusing world of key wording.

    In my particular case as a photo hobbyist I settled(for now) to just have an 'online/offline' browser to locate my images spread over 8 external hard drives without any 'bells and whistles' (keywords, labels, etc.) based on a date based folder structure. Media pro 1.5 does accomplish this with an acceptable footprint of its catalog size(s).
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  • Peter Brockhausen
    Hello Peter,
    quick question about Photos, can you browse 'offline' images even when the storage media(eg external hard drive) is not connected to the system? I tried this with Picasa but it only works with 'online' images. Haven't had time to try with photos...


    God questions, I never tried it before.
    But I just did a quick test with only one picture.

    And yes, it works as expected. You can browse offline picture. Since thumbnails are saved in two resolutions by Photos, the picture has a good quality when browsing. And if you try to edit it, you get a message like offline picture not found and the option to locate the respective folder.
    It looks promising.

    --peter
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  • Robert Edwards
    IPTC Core is the universal standard. I just mentioned the Controlled Vocabulary website in another post which lists programs that adhere to it.

    Agreed Media Pro can be a very lightweight database especially if you don't include Full Screen Previews and keep Thumbnails to Medium quality and low enough resolution like 480px.
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  • Robert Edwards
    [quote="w-mfrog" wrote:
    [quote="Jimmy D Uptain" wrote:
    Sorry guys but without color management, a catalog is pointless.


    Maybe related to your color management issues. There's a bug in Media Pro when rendering JPEGs converted in Capture One.

    On Mac I converted the same raw files to JPEG and sRGB color profile in both Photoshop and Capture One. Media Pro SE displays all the JPEGs fine if the Preferred Engine for raw files is set to Apple. When the Preferred Engine is set to Phase One the Photoshop JPEGs still look fine but the Capture One JPEGS look oversaturated. Photo Mechanic renders all the JPEGs correctly.
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  • paintbox
    Yeah, I've given up on MP.
    I'm not angry, its just not the right tool for me.
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  • Robert Edwards
    Spoke too soon. I just upgraded to Media Pro SE and Capture One 9 PRO and now getting weird color management of video files.
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