Perspective
Implemented
Pls make this
a) quicker to use by making it possible to click and drag on the line (1 click) instead of only having to click both endpoints (2 clicks), as I sometimes just want to move it parallell to where it was.
b) Making it possible to use 3 lines also, not only 2 or 4. There are not always four places available to click onto.
(this is how Lightroom already does it)
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Before applying correction:
After applying correction:
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One was taken with a Canon EF 24-70mm f/4L, the other with an EF 100mm f/2.8L. The issue is not specific to any particular lens.
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But I guess the one taken with the 24-105 was not taken using the wide end of the zoom, but closer to to the tele end.
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"But I guess the one taken with the 24-105 was not taken using the wide end of the zoom, but closer to to the tele end."
That's correct – though only 70mm – I mistakenly wrote 24-105mm, now corrected to 24-70mm.
I've had the same issue with wide angle shots many times. Often it isn't as pronounced as in the above example (Borgergade), but it's still there. It mainly occurs when making simultaneous vertical and horizontal keystone correction, and it's exactly the same as in the schematic examples: parallel sides, but no right angles.
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Another typical example.
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After:
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I agree this looks as a genuine bug.
I will open a bug report for the R&D in the internal tool and try to prioritize the fix as quickly as possible.
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"I will open a bug report for the R&D in the internal tool and try to prioritize the fix as quickly as possible."
Thanks. I've reported this myself for the first time 10-11 months ago, just after I started using Capture One. I've sent countless examples to support since then (cf. #15943, #55503 and #55304).
You may also want to have a look at this request for a new keystone tool, with a list of requested features.
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I can confirm the issues shown in those latest screenshots are not camera-specific. It happens with my Sony a7R IV with every lens I have, its just a general bug in the keystone algorithm IMHO.
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@Tamas Nemeth
Let me just add that if you start looking at improvements to the keystone tool, it would be very, very welcome if you would consider unlocking the adjustment points as this would make the tool much more useful (the first item on the list here).
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I agree with Thomas on this.
Because the current tool has the horizontal and vertical lines locked together it's useless or too cumbersome in 90% of the cases.
Just unlocking these and letting us freely draw the lines would already be a major improvement. A little attached zoom window would also be helpful making it way faster to pick the right points.
Besides this the tool also doesn't work like everyone wants it to work. As Thomas pointed out, the results after the correction are just not any good.
And finally, an option for a simple auto correction would be somewhat of a given. Lightroom has that since 2016 and it's by far one of my most used tools when I crop, rotate and straighten a photo.
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Those all sound like good improvements. I just hope they focus on fixing the buggy algorithm first.
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@Brian Satoer
"A little attached zoom window would also be helpful making it way faster to pick the right points."
This would be useful. I'll add this to the request.
@Katrina Niolet
"I just hope they focus on fixing the buggy algorithm first."
Yes, that's definitely the most urgent step.
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No changes in version 21.
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I saw :(
Version is a real disappointment :(
Speed Edit is a funny thing but as a professional photographer I already use hardware knob controllers for years. Those are already way faster.
The Pro Profiles are nice but unfortunately not all camera's are supported. On a wedding day I shoot with both a Sony A7rIV and A9ii and the A7rIV has a pro profile but there is no pro profile for the A9ii yet so on an entire shoot that's not really handy.
The crop tool is still slow and rotating the photo around is also still very slow.
All the problems with the keystone correction are also there and so are many other things which really need an improvement.
I really don't understand their strategy.
They said that they changed the naming to Add to catalog so people migrating from LR would feel more at home but they also don't adopt all the things which LR does better or faster. Why don't they just copy the good things Adobe already did in LR?
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@Brian Satoer
If cropping/rotating is slow, check whether you have the "Exposure Evaluation" tool visible.
At least some versions ago, this tool significantly slowed down these operations. Removing it or just closing it avoided the calculations necessary to update it and hence resulted in normal behaviour.
Regarding the remaining keystone issue: I don't understand Capture One's policy of leaving so many issues unaddressed and instead offer questionable new features. As you said, people who valued quick editing should have a console already. Sure, an alternative and a "dehaze" tool can be nice to have for some but such features should be offered after plain bugs and real productivity road blocks have been removed.
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Hi... regarding cropping/rotating: I don't have the Exposure Evalution tool on. Cropping is kinda okay but when rotating a delay is noticeable. I was a Lightroom user and when I crop and rotate in Lightroom (on the same machine) it goes silky smooth and really fast. It's a day and night difference. It's so slow in C1 that I went back to doing my cropping and rotating in LR and then re-importing the results in C1.
And yes I agree. I also don't understand why C1 isn't doing all the simple tweaks, fixes and requests. There are so many small things that are requested which are just small tweaks.
I understand that big features like HDR stacking, and panorama merging are bigger implementations which need development (and testing) time but there are so many little requests out there.
Like a simple shortcut for Edit in Photoshop. In so many webinars they boast about the ability to make all those keyboard shortcut but a simple Edit in Photoshop shortcut isn't possible.
Or an option to choose if the export counter always starts at 1 instead of starting where it ended before. Now I have to remember to reset the counter every time before I export again. And yes, I made a shortcut to reset the counter but why don't they just give us an option to always have it start at 1.
Other simple things like a Pick and Reject flag are also small things. The advantage is that when you use a Reject flag you can use the Delete all Rejected function to just quickly delete the junk. Now I flag them red and green and then filter all the red flags, select them and delete them. That's just too many steps.
Or on option to simply display time and date underneath the photo next to ISO, exposure, aperture and focal length.
Or what about a quick key just to simply rotate the crop from landscape to portrait. Lightroom had that from day one. And the shortcut (X) key makes it super quick.
C1 is already copying a lot of things from LR. They even changed some names in the import dialog to make it more in line with LR. There is even a migration workspace for LR users to feel more familiar. So it looks that they are aiming to get more LR users over to C1 and I think that they can really succeed but for that to happen they should really attend to those small fixes.
Making the step from LR to C1 takes a bit of effort and people will have to change they way they work (on some levels) and sometimes the way they edit. This is also a good thing because it promotes a fresh new vision. But when a new user is missing some features he needs or uses on a daily basis it would make the change to C1 a harder choice.
Speed Edit is a fun thing and it has it uses but that is a good example of a feature which doesn't make users switch to C1. The same for the dehaze tool. It's nice and get's you there for about 80 or maybe 90 percent but the same look can be done with the other tools.
What can't be done with other tools is better keystone correction. You should think that many photographers depend on that tool. Especially when they are doing architecture or urban photography.
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I've posted a request for information about the status of the keystone tool here.
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