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Printing from M1 Mac to Canon PRO-100

Dave R

I have just switched from Windows to a Mac mini M1 Big Sur and while I am getting to grips with the Mac OS (having dabbled for years with Linux command line interface helps) I am totally beaten by the printing system.  The only way I have found to print successfully to my Canon Pro-100 is to use the Canon Print studio pro plug-in in Lightroom (Lightroom only by the way, the plug-in is not recognised by Photoshop).  Other than that I just do not understand the Print Settings dialog that Capture One brings up when I select Print Settings - lots of Presets but absolutely no way of making my own as far as I can see.

When I do get to Colour Options to show up I can't actually make an adjustment as the sliders are faded out and so it goes on.

Does anyone know of a comprehensive detailed tutorial on printing colour managed prints from the the Mac mini - I know it is possible because the print studio pro plug-in for Lightroom works.

I am really wondering whether to kick the Mac-Mini into the same recycling Skip as my defunct Windows machine and take the financial hit of buying a new Windows desktop on the chin.  For me photography is about the physical print, on line display is secondary.

Dave

 

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  • Permanently deleted user

    Hi Dave,

    You are not the first to complain about the Capture One printing module. I print using the Photoshop module, which is far better.

    If the colour options in the printer module are grayed out, it is more likely because you ask Capture One to manage the printer. You don't need, then, to adjust the colours when printing, as you should be quite sure that the printed image on your (calibrated) printer will perfectly fit the one you see on your (calibrated) display.

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  • Dave R

    Thanks for the reply Robert.

    As I use non Canon paper with its own profile I need to use application (Capture one, Lightroom Classic etc) manages colours rather than printer(colour matching none in printer driver).  As I say print studio pro seems to do that ok in Lightroom Classic so it is possible but I can't work out how.

    I have tried printing from Photoshop following Canon instructions, ColorSync is selected but still the result looks like double profiling.

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  • FirstName LastName

    Hey Dave
    Same issue here. New Mac Mini M1. Apply the profile in C1 and get a bad print

    If I export the same file to Photoshop, print using that same profile the print will look great as expected.

    I had no issues like this when printing from the Windows version of C1. Very frustrating.

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  • Philip Cruse

    Hi,

    To those posters who are getting what looks like 'double-profiling' when printing, you are most likely inadvertently using the very poor Apple 'AirPrint' driver, even if printing via USB rather than wifi. This driver does NOT turn Colour Management off in the printer driver, which should be done automatically.

    The solution is to install the correct Canon (or Epson, as appropriate) driver you've downloaded from their website. Unfortunately, drivers for M1 chips may not yet be available for some printers, and are even unavailable for some consumer (esp. Canon TS) printers for mainstream Intel macOS.

    Info on Mac printing problems:

    https://www.colourphil.co.uk/printing-mac_colour_problems.shtml

    I would say that C1 printing (Intel Mac) does work with Application Colour Management, but isn't perfect and tends to 'loose' settings, which isn't helped by printer settings not being stored inside Templates. LR does a better job of printing. Two 'Printing' apps, Qimage One and Print-tool also do a better job, but have their own idiosyncrasies. However, none of these apps work properly with the AirPrint driver!

    Cheers,

    Phil

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  • Dave R

    Thanks Philip that was really useful information.  I had somehow got 2 versions of my Canon Pro-100 installed one of which was Air-print, that has now been dealt with. I can now print from Lightroom using print studio pro and set +20 brightness which I know from long experience on windows stops prints being too dark.  I can also print direct from Lightroom and make use of the brightness slider in the print module.  However when it comes to Capture One everything is ok except the whole colour options panel in the print settings is frozen and no adjustments can be made to brightness or any colour characteristic. I have a feeling I read about this shortcoming somewhere a month or two ago.

    It is interesting that on the Canon web site there is no driver listed for Big Sur for the Pro-100 or Pro-100S but if you choose the previous operating system a driver shows up and the write up gives Big Sur as one of the operating systems it is for. ;-( 

     

    Dave

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  • Philip Cruse

    Hi Dave,

    Glad it sort of works!

    The print being too dark is almost always caused by the monitor being too bright, even when/especially when calibrated! They are usually calibrated bright for videos/gaming and not for photography. Should be calibrated to match your prints in your viewing conditions:

    https://www.colourphil.co.uk/prints-appear-dark.shtml

    If you could adjust the Brightness and other settings in the Canon driver you'd be taking it away from the settings used to create the Print Profile. There has been criticism of LR for having these settings in their Print Module. 

    Cheers,

    Phil

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  • Dave R

    Thanks for the comment Philip.  In fact both my NEC Multisync monitors are calibrated at 120 cd/m^2 and are never sullied by games (except solitaire of course) ;-)

    This whole colour management thing was so much easier on Windows,  calibrate screens using NEC Spectraview II (not yet available for Big Sur on Mac Silicon),  load the Win10 printer driver and away you go.

    I had to wait until just recently to profile my screens using the inferior just released for Big Sur i1Profiler app.

    By the way I think my brightness problem may be due to using paper manufacturers generic paper profile.

    Thanks again for really useful help.

     

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  • Philip Cruse

    Hi Dave,

    120 may be a bit high, depending on your viewing. I use in the region of 80. 

    Paper profiles aren't made with regard to monitor conditions, there's no way to do that, apart from the White Point, for which the !CC standard is D50.

    However, not all paper profiles are created equal!

    Cheers,

    Phil

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