Colors Capture One to RAW photoshop
I have export a file to photoshop as a .psd and the colors look fine in photoshop.
I have export the same file to RAW photoshop and the file has a different color (red is much less then the .psd export file)
I did this test with a file without any corrections in capture one.
In photoshop RAW I set the profile to Adobe RGB.
Anyone an idea what I'm missing?
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When you say you export to "RAW Photoshop", not sure what you mean.
And what steps are you actually taking?
Are you exporting using the export dialogue box then opening in PS or are you choosing to "Edit With" or "Open With" PS ?0 -
When I open the file to Camera RAW in photoshop the color is less red (more green).
See screenshots...
The problem is when I use "EDIT WITH"
In Camera RAW I set the colors in Adobe RGB.
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Hmmmmm....If I understand whats happening.
I think the difference you are seeing is because when you "Edit With" and create a PSD, Capture One is profiling the image. All images that come into Capture One get a profile adjustment based on your camera. This is Capture Ones way of matching your cameras tonal qualities. When you "Open With" You are handing off the file to PS without Capture One applying any adjustment to the file.
So the file you see as a PSD has a Capture One profile applied as default and the RAW does not. The RAW is being fully managed by the Adobe RAW Converter. They wont match because they are being processed differently.
What you see in the PSD is what you should be seeing in Capture One.0 -
Thank you for the reply.
I'm tomorrow in the studio to check the profile in camera as I can't see any profile in Capture One.
To be continued...0 -
I have checked the profile on the camera an it's Adobe RGB.
Strange that I can't see this in capture one metadata.
But the problem isn't solved ...0 -
I think Spicyjello is referring to the camera colour profile that was made by the Capture One team.
The (JPEG) colour profile you set in your camera has no influence on RAW files, these have no profile but rather a wide colour space. The camera applies the chosen profile when developing it into a JPEG which has a more restricted colour space than RAW.The difference here is that "open with" passes the source RAW file to Photoshop as-is without any C1 edits, while "edit with" sends along what you currently see in C1. Here Capture One's colour profile for your camera is applied plus any edits you have made until then.
You're seeing the effects of the different ways in which apps interpret and develop RAW data to what you see on screen. Perhaps Photoshop has a different profile for your camera of what they think is neutral or natural, perhaps there is no profile at all and a generic algorithm is used.One solution is always using edit with (and hence always using C1 as your RAW developer). If you want to start in Photoshop from a blank slate without edits but with the profile applied, create a new variant and edit that one. Alternatively you could have Photoshop apply the C1 camera colour profile when opening the source RAW. In Windows the profiles are in C:\Program Files\Capture One\Capture One <version>\Color Profiles\DSLR. A similar folder might exist on Mac under the Capture one app folder. Did not test this though and might take some effort which is not needed via the first approach.
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Thank you for your reply.
The export I did are without any edits from Capture one.
I suppose, like you say, it will have something to do how the files are treated by Photoshop.
I was just happy to see the improvements photoshop made for selection and layers in the Camera RAW part
And how longer you can keep it in RAW the better? But for now I just keep using my workflow as it was.0 -
>>And how longer you can keep it in RAW the better?
Well yes, but if exported with sufficient bit-depth (16, 32 is overkill) and in a wide enough colour profile (e.g. AdobeRGB) you could be still fine. Can't speak for your use-case/requirements though.
Could still be an option if you like the colours of one RAW developer -C1- and (need) the tools of another -PS-...0 -
That's the workflow now ;)
Thank you for your input.
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