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"Edit All Selected Variants" not working.

MDWelch
I am trying to change the white balance, and other types of edits, to multiple images. I have the Edit All Selected Variants selected, but the change only happens to the single image.

If I do a reset, or apply a style/preset, it will happen to all of the selected images, but nothing else.

Ideas?
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  • cdc
    By default Copy/Paste only works for settings which have been changed from their default setting. If you haven't made any white balance changes since the picture was imported, it will not copy the white balance setting. Look at the adjustments clipboard or click on the double arrow of the tool you are trying to copy and verify the the box next to what you want copied is ticked. If it is not ticked it likely was not adjusted off of its base setting and it will not copy. This is where I would start.

    You can change the settings so that copy/paste will "select all" as opposed to "select adjusted" in the the adjustments clipboard menu, or you can manually tick the box.
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  • SFA
    Anything that just writes to a sidecar file - star rating, colour label, keywords and similar will typically apply changes immediately. Processing overheads will be fairly low and the job can be "batched" in concept.

    Anything that is likely to require significant calculation from the source file upwards - like most image adjustments - is applied to one image at a time and you then have the quick way to copy and paste to all of the others currently selected thus processing those in a batch too. If you have a lot of images selected it may take a while. It may take a while every time you move a slider. Probably not a great idea for anyone with a lot of images selected.


    HTH.


    Grant
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  • MDWelch
    Grant.

    Thanks for getting back to me.

    This was working before, now it doesn't work. I have even made variants of the orginals and still nothing is working.

    I have the Edit Selected/Edit Variants button pressed, which has worked no problem in the past, but now it is not working. I have done it to just two images, only the target image changes.

    Thank you.
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  • SFA
    MDWelch wrote:
    Grant.

    Thanks for getting back to me.

    This was working before, now it doesn't work. I have even made variants of the orginals and still nothing is working.

    I have the Edit Selected/Edit Variants button pressed, which has worked no problem in the past, but now it is not working. I have done it to just two images, only the target image changes.

    Thank you.


    What has worked before?

    Which tools have you been using?

    Windows or Mac?


    Grant
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  • MDWelch
    Grant.

    With the Edit Selected/Edit Variant button selected. I could use ANY tool. White Balance, Black and White Conversion, Curves, you name it, I could edit multiple images with out using the Copy/Apply function.

    Now even with Variants of the images selected, which I had converted by selecting all of them and using the Black and White panel, only one of the selected images changes, and the other do not change.

    Thank you.
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  • HansB
    If I may chime in here...
    MDWelch wrote:
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    With the Edit Selected/Edit Variant button selected. I could use ANY tool. White Balance, Black and White Conversion, Curves, you name it, I could edit multiple images with out using the Copy/Apply function.
    ...

    I always had and have to <SHIFT>-click the double-arrow icon of the tool to apply the changes on the primary variant to the rest of the selection.

    Only stars, ratings and such things automatically apply to all selected variants at once.


    Regards,
    Hans
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  • MatBe
    I've found that, with multiple images selected and "edit selected variants" active, applying changes via a tool tab (say, the exposure slider) affects only the primary image. Bummer.

    However, changing exposure or WB via shortcuts affects all variants in real time.

    I much prefer the shortcut way to batch edit photos to the shift-double arrows option.
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  • SFA
    NNN636480708794926510 wrote:
    I've found that, with multiple images selected and "edit selected variants" active, applying changes via a tool tab (say, the exposure slider) affects only the primary image. Bummer.

    However, changing exposure or WB via shortcuts affects all variants in real time.

    I much prefer the shortcut way to batch edit photos to the shift-double arrows option.


    Now that IS interesting.

    For two reasons.

    Firstly, although I had not spotted the significance of this sort of edit as I use short cuts for some things but hardly ever edit related changes, this methid is applying fixed value changes to whichever parameter is being modified and thus the changes are much the same as adding a star or a rating - a single value (albeit it to a calculation but bit is a known value not something to be calculated form when a slider stops moving for more than a few nano seconds) and so sort of fits in with the observation I made previously.

    Secondly what it does is different to a copy and paste for the same reason. It is adjusting the current values by an amount where as copy and paste will take an absolute value for an adjustment from whichever is the primary variant currently being edited and apply that specific value to all of the other images.

    At least that is the case as far as I know.

    That's very interesting in some ways - although the thought of setting up all of those shortcuts that one might wish for is a little daunting.


    Grant
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  • JLewis
    I came to this thread with the same questions. Ugh, seems like whoever designed this wasn't thinking much about user experience. "Press this button to do change all the imagers... Except in these 45 scenarios.... Except there are exceptions to the exceptions too"

    One day maybe the C1 guys will look at the "auto sync" button in Lightroom. I never needed to read forums and tutorials about their implementation. It just works intuitively. 😉
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  • Ian Wilson
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    NN634893309447666610UL wrote:
    I came to this thread with the same questions. Ugh, seems like whoever designed this wasn't thinking much about user experience. "Press this button to do change all the imagers... Except in these 45 scenarios.... Except there are exceptions to the exceptions too"

    One day maybe the C1 guys will look at the "auto sync" button in Lightroom. I never needed to read forums and tutorials about their implementation. It just works intuitively. 😉

    I suppose that those of us who are long-term C1 users and have never used Lightroom much would find LR's ways of doing things quirky and unintuitive too. I tend to look at it and ask why it isn't like C1, while LR users look at C1 and ask why it isn't like LR. You get on well with what you are used to, I think.

    Ian
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  • SFA
    NN634893309447666610UL wrote:


    One day maybe the C1 guys will look at the "auto sync" button in Lightroom. I never needed to read forums and tutorials about their implementation. It just works intuitively. 😉


    I abandoned LightRoom after version 1.4 as I found it inflexible back then since everything had to be in a catalog - not what I wanted.

    Can you explain, for the benefit of non-LR users, what Auto Sync does and how flexible it can be? Especially if you have a large number of images selected and find one or two for which you need to apply a specific adjustment that does not apply to the rest of the selection that you are in the middle of working with.

    I'm always interested in UI flexibility.



    Grant
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  • Benjamin Liddle
    We're always looking for user feedback, and this is a great place for it, but a better place is via the link in my profile, so we can accurately measure the user feedback level for a particular use.

    I can say, anecdotally, that having an AD go through and inadvertantly tag a whole folder of images as selects is a surefire way to make sure you don't work with that client again.
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  • RBeci

    The "Edit All Selected" feature simply does not work as one would expect. It's practically useless for anything other than setting styles. It behaves strangely and doesn't do what its name suggests.

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  • RBeci

    Bug report: https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/requests/232369

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  • RBeci
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    A cumbersome solution could be the "Copy and Apply Adjustments" method. However, this method automatically detects certain changes, but fails to recognize others, which can be quite frustrating.

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  • RBeci

    Another workaround:

    • Edit All Selected: styles and reset
    • Slanted arrows + shift: sync immediately the settings (panel level: this is the disadvantage)
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  • RBeci

    MDWelch please correct the title "&quot;" to ". Thanks :)

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  • BeO
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    Are you familiar with the Adjustments Clipboard?

    https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002485038-The-Adjustments-Clipboard-overview

     

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