OS X 10.11 El Capitan
With the release of El Capitan tomorrow, I was wondering if Phase has offered any official word on whether or not Capture One will be fully supported off the bat? Obviously, I won't be upgrading to El Capitan for at least a couple weeks after release or maybe even a .1 version to root out any other compatibility issues, but I skipped Yosemite and am still running Mavericks on all of my machines so I'd like to get El Capitan sooner rather than later. I didn't ever install Yosemite because I wasn't a huge fan of the new UI and I was concerned about the "iOSification" of OS X, but I'm pretty excited about some of the new features in El Capitan so I'm willing to overlook those concerns and get with the times!
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Same for me, unfortunately it keep crashing even on some older macs with Nvidia 0 -
I strongly recommend to let Capture One 8 recompile the OpenCL kernel based on the new drivers, after their installation.
How-to
Close CO8, delete ICOCL.bin from /HD/Users/Shared/Capture One/ImageCore folder. Start CO8 and allow five minutes for compiling a new kernel.0 -
[quote="Peter from NH" wrote:
:D Thank you Mark! Huge Save
posting.php?mode=edit&f=55&p=98106&sid=21931545a0188fcfb059a81e3af096ed#If, like me you upgraded to 10.11 only to find Capture One immediately crashing on startup, there is a work-around.
Open the Terminal.app (from /Applications/Utilities) and enter the following commands:
defaults write com.phaseone.captureone8 UseOpenCL 0
defaults write com.phaseone.captureone8 UseOpenCLForProcessing 0
This will stop Capture One from using OpenCL. The commands are equivalent to changing the OpenCL options under "Hardware Acceleration" (General Settings). When Phase One have a fix, you can re-enable via the preferences...
-- Mark
transienteye.com
This worked perfectly for me. Thanks, G
Mark BCN
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I have 212 photos from my kid's school Walk-a-Thon event to process and reading all of this over breakfast overwhelms me. 🤓 When will there a complete turn-key solution to these problems? Isn't the convenience of a turn-key solution something that ought to come with a $300 software package? 😉
I am on a 2011 21.5" iMac and I have not upgraded to the latest OS. Capture One is too important of a software package for me.0 -
[quote="6BQ5" wrote:
I am on a 2011 21.5" iMac and I have not upgraded to the latest OS. Capture One is too important of a software package for me.
Very wise Boris.
I have long felt that to be at the bleeding edge of any current technology might be interesting for some people and, perhaps, vital for a few for some very specific reasons but by no means a necessity for the majority.
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[quote="SFA" wrote:
[quote="6BQ5" wrote:
I am on a 2011 21.5" iMac and I have not upgraded to the latest OS. Capture One is too important of a software package for me.
Very wise Boris.
I have long felt that to be at the bleeding edge of any current technology might be interesting for some people and, perhaps, vital for a few for some very specific reasons but by no means a necessity for the majority.
Grant
I have learned to wait. Usually OS upgrades have more changes that are annoyances and headaches than stuff you just cannot live without. However, I did upgrade to to El Capitan from Mavericks, skipping whatever was after Mavericks, due to a beta software program being developed for the Mac OS (currently only runs under Windows). The beta program only runs on El Capitan. I really want to influence the programs development. Of note, C1 is running fine on my computer running El Capitan (though I have not used the C1 on it extensively).0 -
[quote="SFA" wrote:
I have long felt that to be at the bleeding edge of any current technology might be interesting for some people and, perhaps, vital for a few for some very specific reasons but by no means a necessity for the majority.
As long as I have been using MacOS (and same could be said about any OS) my advise would have always been not to use new major releases directly. It is usually better to wait for the first update that will iron out the most critical issues. So, I haven't been too upset about not being able to update to 10.11 yet. Minutes ago I almost ordered the new wireless keyboard Apple presented today. Guess what - it only works with OS X 10.11. ☹️ So, with moves like that, also for a larger majority it becomes at some point a necessity to upgrade.
Need to check the status of Photoshop and Illustrator CS5.1. As far as I remember there were some problems with El Capitan and I am not willing to upgrade to CC.0 -
[quote="harald_walker" wrote:
Minutes ago I almost ordered the new wireless keyboard Apple presented today. Guess what - it only works with OS X 10.11. ☹️ So, with moves like that, also for a larger majority it becomes at some point a necessity to upgrade.
"At some point" IF a new wireless keyboard is seen as a necessity.
But is it? An will it ever be so important that there are no options?
Grant0 -
So, when can we hope to have an El-Capitan version of COP ? 0 -
And an El Capitan version of Capture One Pro 7, also ??? 0 -
[quote="coudouy" wrote:
And an El Capitan version of Capture One Pro 7, also ???
viewtopic.php?f=55&t=20902&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30#p981570 -
Apple just seeded a 4th OS X El Capitan 10.11.1 beta to developers and public beta testers for testing purposes. Some people report that problems of other applications with El Capitan are gone now.
For PhaseOne this might also be a difficult situation now and slow the process down. Maybe this upcoming 10.11.1 update breaks some fixes for 10.11 they are currently working on or some of the problems don't have to be fixed any longer and users just have to wait for 10.11.1.0 -
[quote="harald_walker" wrote:
Apple just seeded a 4th OS X El Capitan 10.11.1 beta to developers and public beta testers for testing purposes. Some people report that problems of other applications with El Capitan are gone now.
For PhaseOne this might also be a difficult situation now and slow the process down. Maybe this upcoming 10.11.1 update breaks some fixes for 10.11 they are currently working on or some of the problems don't have to be fixed any longer and users just have to wait for 10.11.1.
Oh my . . .0 -
[quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
I strongly recommend to let Capture One 8 recompile the OpenCL kernel based on the new drivers, after their installation.
How-to
Close CO8, delete ICOCL.bin from /HD/Users/Shared/Capture One/ImageCore folder. Start CO8 and allow five minutes for compiling a new kernel.
Is this the solution?! If so, it's incredibly simple and this needs to be pinned as a solution for everyone who's upgraded to El Capitan to use.0 -
[quote="Mateus" wrote:
[quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
I strongly recommend to let Capture One 8 recompile the OpenCL kernel based on the new drivers, after their installation.
How-to
Close CO8, delete ICOCL.bin from /HD/Users/Shared/Capture One/ImageCore folder. Start CO8 and allow five minutes for compiling a new kernel.
Is this the solution?! If so, it's incredibly simple and this needs to be pinned as a solution for everyone who's upgraded to El Capitan to use.
No, for me (27'' iMac late 2013 with 4GB GeForce GTX780M) it didn't work. C1 runs fine with OpenCL disabled.0 -
Hello,
4th beta of OS X 11.1 does not fix the OpenCL problem.0 -
[quote="tatuvaaj" wrote:
Hello,
4th beta of OS X 11.1 does not fix the OpenCL problem.
Thanks for the update.0 -
Using C1 on a MBPro (late 2013 under 10.11.1 beta 4, OpenCl activated), I can't see any trouble with C1 v8.3.3. Some happy systems apparently ? 0 -
Well I'll be annoying here. 😊
Running 10.11.1b4, on a Mac Mini with an external R9 270 eGPU (that is, a system that just should not work at all), and OpenCL runs fine here in Capture One 8.3.3.
*shrug*0 -
Well, another annoying one ☹️
Running OS X El Capitan 10.11.1 Beta4 (and all the previous ones before) on a Mac Pro late 2013 with D500 GPU and not having a single problem (as far as I discovered) running C1 Pro 8.3.3 with OpenCL on.
But I admit, before each time I upgrade my OS I do some testing of my most precious apps in a virtual machine (VMWARE here) and chances are good that if it works in that VM image on the same hardware that it will work in my running system.
*sniff*0 -
Looks like C1 runs fine on Radeon videocards, while failing on NVidia ones. 0 -
[quote="Mark BCN" wrote:
If, like me you upgraded to 10.11 only to find Capture One immediately crashing on startup, there is a work-around.
Open the Terminal.app (from /Applications/Utilities) and enter the following commands:
defaults write com.phaseone.captureone8 UseOpenCL 0
defaults write com.phaseone.captureone8 UseOpenCLForProcessing 0
This will stop Capture One from using OpenCL. The commands are equivalent to changing the OpenCL options under "Hardware Acceleration" (General Settings). When Phase One have a fix, you can re-enable via the preferences...
-- Mark
While the C1 team was offering excuses, Mark offered a solution. Thanks Mark!0 -
Actually it was offered couple pages before.
This is still not a solid, so solution is to wait till OpenCL issues been resolved by C1 team.0 -
Just a caution,
Current version of CO8 will hang and not execute on output process recipes(whitewall,jpeg, Web, etc) in a session in EL Capitan...
Macbook pro retina, ssd, 16gb
Exporting the variants will work though.0 -
[quote="C-F" wrote:
Just a caution,
Current version of CO8 will hang and not execute on output process recipes(whitewall,jpeg, Web, etc) in a session in EL Capitan...
Macbook pro retina, ssd, 16gb
Exporting the variants will work though.
Not seen here on my MBP yet. Processing works with all my recipes in sessions (and in catalogs, too). AdobeRGB and sRGB in TIFF 8/16bit, JPEG, JPEG Quickproof, PSD 8/16bit.
My only troubles in El Cap so far:
- CO 8: openCL crashes. Workaround: currently disabled openCL.
- PS CS6: Type Tool crashes. Fix: deleted the font cache folder content.
Does your processing also hang when processing from a fresh new session?
Regards,
Hans0 -
It's 18 days now since El Capitan was released, and much longer since it was on Beta. C1 Pro 7 still doesn't work. This is not about glitches. It is plain broken. No amount of excuses etc about 'this is the way software is today' is going to allay the impression that Phase One is behind the curve in supporting its product. Other programs work fine. This is supposed to be 'pro' software! If 'the way software is today' requires constant updates, as some have pointed out, then it's part of the price of playing today that a company needs to demonstrate that it needs to able to keep up with major changes in the OS to retain the trust of the user. The total lack of communication from Phase One since the initial communication about what they have been doing to keep up with El Capitan is destroying confidence in C1 as a system we can trust our catalog to. 0 -
[quote="m0n0" wrote:
Other programs work fine.
That is not correct. There are many application out there that have issues with El Capitan. Slowly updates are arriving for some of them. Other manufacturers including large ones like Microsoft are also still working on it.
And then there is old software that ran on Yosemite but not or with problems on El Capitan that won't get updates. For instance I paid good money for the Adobe Creative Suite 5.5 and it is not getting updates any longer.[quote="m0n0" wrote:
The total lack of communication from Phase One since the initial communication about what they have been doing to keep up with El Capitan is destroying confidence in C1 as a system we can trust our catalog to.
They have communicated all that we need to know right now:
1. Capture One 8.3 is not fully compatible and they recommend not to upgrade (on the forum on Sept. 29 before Apple officially released it).
2. They are working on an update.
Regarding communication, my complaint though would be that they could have informed users pro-actively by email before the release of El Capitan. Other software companies warned their users about the upgrade. On the other hand, it is also my own responsibility to check if my crucial software is compatible before upgrading.
Sure it would be nice to know when the update is going to be available but the nature of fixing problems is unfortunately that it is very hard to estimate. And once they have all issues fixed it has to be tested again and as I've mentioned already, Apple is busy working on their first bug fix for El Capitan and that itself can have an impact again on the upcoming Capture One update.
On September 12, Christian even gave an indication of the timeline we should expect:Expect official support for 10.11 within 2 months after public release.
viewtopic.php?f=55&t=20781&p=97340#p97340
So, don't upgrade to El Capitan and if you did, follow the temporary solutions as described in this thread.
As for myself, I am waiting for 10.11.1 and then will check again if all applications that I need to do my work are compatible or not.0 -
+1 on that post Harald.
Not all the problems with 10.11 are because of the OpenCL issue. Even if you deal with it the simple way (in C1 preferences) or the fancy way (from terminal commands) you may still not have a functional C1 - as I know from experience!
And there's nothing wrong with how C1 runs on 10.10, so what's the stampede all about?0 -
+1 on Harald's post.
No stampede from my side. I just briefly stated my findings in my earlier post.
Why did I upgrade?
Just because I was curious. 10.10 was and is working great, and I don't see a serious need to upgrade to 10.11. I can revert at any time.
What did I upgrade?
My old MBP that I don't necessarily need for my photography. I have a newer one with 10.10, way more powerful, for this. Otherwise I wouldn't have upgraded.
PO clearly states: do not upgrade yet.
Adobe clearly states: do not upgrade yet.
I knew this, I upgraded at my own risk, and therefore have no reason to complain.
Regards,
Hans0 -
[quote="m0n0" wrote:
It's 18 days now since El Capitan was released, and much longer since it was on Beta. C1 Pro 7 still doesn't work. This is not about glitches. It is plain broken. No amount of excuses etc about 'this is the way software is today' is going to allay the impression that Phase One is behind the curve in supporting its product. Other programs work fine. This is supposed to be 'pro' software! If 'the way software is today' requires constant updates, as some have pointed out, then it's part of the price of playing today that a company needs to demonstrate that it needs to able to keep up with major changes in the OS to retain the trust of the user. The total lack of communication from Phase One since the initial communication about what they have been doing to keep up with El Capitan is destroying confidence in C1 as a system we can trust our catalog to.
It gets better - you and I (as a C1 Pro 7 user) are left to dry on this one as P1 does not intend to adapt V7 to El Capitan.
I have been using Capture One Pro since some time, but I did not upgrade to this latest V 8 (I am a happy V 7 user).
I do understand that V7 is no longer supported and I certainly am not after freebies - but an update just for it to work in OS 10.11, nothing else?
This does not concern a number of greatly outdated versions ago. If someone would tell me with a straight face that such a patch for V7 to work in OS 10.11 would mean a HUGE amount of work - OK, but I doubt that very much.
FORCING a $99 upgrade on me to a version I otherwise don't need?
Won't happen...0
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